WEBVTT 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:09.430 It is now in order to consider amendment number one printed in part B of House Report 119-462. 00:00:09.440 --> 00:00:18.230 For what purpose does the gentleman from Kentucky seek recognition? >> Mr. Chair, I have an amendment at the desk. >> The clerk shall designate the amendment. 00:00:18.240 --> 00:00:26.790 >> Amendment number one printed in part B of House Report number 119-462 offered by Mr. Massie of Kentucky. 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:35.910 Pursuant to House Resolution 1014, the gentleman from Kentucky, Mr. Massie, and a member opposed each will control five 00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:44.549 minutes. The chair recognizes a gentleman from Kentucky. Mr. Chair, I rise in support of our amendment. This is co-sponsored by Mr. Perry from 00:00:44.559 --> 00:00:52.950 Pennsylvania and Mr. Roy from Texas. And I regret that we have to offer this amendment. What I'm going to describe will probably sound like a bad science 00:00:52.960 --> 00:01:01.110 fiction movie, but that's what's written into law. uh right now in law that's going to be implemented for the it says 00:01:01.120 --> 00:01:10.230 for 2026 and beyond. Now the reality is the technology doesn't exist but that doesn't keep legislators from imagining things that they would like to do to 00:01:10.240 --> 00:01:18.950 infringe on civil liberties. But there is a law that states that every vehicle manufactured is going to have to have a kill switch in it. The car itself will 00:01:18.960 --> 00:01:28.230 monitor your driving. And if the car thinks that you're not doing a good job driving, it will disable itself. So, the car 00:01:28.240 --> 00:01:38.230 dashboard becomes your judge, your jury, and your executioner. Imagine this. We got a snowstorm coming. A mom takes her kids out. They're going 00:01:38.240 --> 00:01:46.469 to the grocery store. It's snowing. They're trying to get some groceries. Before the big storm hits, she she swerves for a pothole. The neighbor's 00:01:46.479 --> 00:01:55.990 pet gets in the way. Swears for that. First responder goes by. She pulls over. Her car says, "You got one more swerve and then we're going to ground you." 00:01:56.000 --> 00:02:04.069 There it is. The next thing she has to avoid an icy patch in the road. The car has adjudicated her as unsuitable for 00:02:04.079 --> 00:02:15.270 driving. It disables the vehicle and there she's stranded. My question is, how do you appeal your sentence once your car, the technology in your car has 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:24.150 judged you to be incapable of driving? Once it's disabled you and your children at the side of the road, how do you appeal that? Do you press a button on 00:02:24.160 --> 00:02:34.630 the dashboard? Do you start talking to an AI? What if it really was somebody who was drunk? Are you really going to send a a police car after this disabled 00:02:34.640 --> 00:02:44.550 vehicle? Do we have the resources to do that? There's going to be so many false positives. The technology is unworkable. That's why the DOT is still in the 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:53.750 rulemaking process trying asking for feedback on how this thing could even exist and uh it's just a bad idea, but it's in 00:02:53.760 --> 00:03:03.990 law. And so our amendment would defund that. And with that, I'd like to reserve the balance of my time. >> The gentleman reserves. The gentleman from Kentucky is recognized. 00:03:04.000 --> 00:03:12.229 >> Mr. Mr. Chairman, drunk driving is a serious problem, but 31 states already have the technology uh to keep drunk 00:03:12.239 --> 00:03:20.550 drivers off of the road with ignition interlock devices that they can mandate. And this technology that's in the law is not going to fix the drunk driving 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:29.750 problem. With that, I'd like to yield two minutes to my friend from Pennsylvania, Mr. Perry. >> The gentleman from Pennsylvania is yielded two minutes. I thank the 00:03:29.760 --> 00:03:38.070 gentleman for Kentucky for his work on this and of course uh the chairman of the full committee for the hard work on appropriations. Look, we none of us want 00:03:38.080 --> 00:03:47.190 to be on the road with drunk drivers and of course this was a solution intended to deal with them and all of us want them to be dealt with. But I'm going to 00:03:47.200 --> 00:03:56.630 remind everybody, as my friend from Kentucky just said, there is already legislation in multiple states, dozens of states that deal with drunk drivers 00:03:56.640 --> 00:04:07.270 through the ignition interlock system. Probably in your family somewhere, someone you know, you've dealt with this. I know in my family and the people I know, I've dealt with it. But here's 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:16.069 what I don't want to see in America. Everybody being punished for the people that drink and drive, including the ones that don't drink and 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:24.790 drive. I happen not to drink, but I'm going to be forced to have this thing in my car. And I'm going to tell you what's next. After what Thomas said, after what 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:33.830 Representative Massie said, the car is going to be the judge, jury, and sentencer for your crime in the car. The next thing is going to be, well, we need to hook this thing up to the government 00:04:33.840 --> 00:04:43.030 so we can dispatch the police. I'm just going to tell you what's going to happen next. They're going to be shutting your car off when they decide whatever they 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:51.510 decide from, wherever they decide it. Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know about what you think about due process and the Constitution and the Fourth Amendment 00:04:51.520 --> 00:05:00.150 and and the right to not be imposed upon by illegal, unlawful search and seizure, but punishing everybody for this crime, 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:09.029 whether they've committed it or not, if they're going to commit it or not, should be unconstitutional. This shouldn't really be a question. We all want to get to the problem and we're 00:05:09.039 --> 00:05:19.110 happy to work with everybody on all sides to deal with it. But you cannot punish convict punish convict and punish everybody in the country for the sake of 00:05:19.120 --> 00:05:28.150 the ones that do things that they shouldn't do. And with that, I yield the balance to the gentleman from Kentucky. >> The gentleman from Kentucky is recognized. 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:36.790 >> Last uh time we offered this amendment. It had bipartisan support. I urged my colleagues to vote for this amendment. It would defund an unconstitutional and 00:05:36.800 --> 00:05:44.240 unworkable mandate that has already missed the deadlines. And with that, I yield back.