MASSIEFLIX

CNN The Source: These Men Were Listed as Co-Conspirators in DOJ's Files

Feb 9, 2026 · 11:03 epsteincnndoj

On CNN's The Source, Massie points to men listed as co-conspirators in DOJ's own Epstein files who have not been charged.

Original by Office of Rep. Thomas Massie on YouTube ↗ · Is this yours? Claim credit →

Play from here

Transcript

Download captions

Click any timestamp to jump to that moment.

72 lines
  1. An attempt by Congress to depose Ghislaine Maxwell under oath went nowhere fast on Capitol Hill today. That's because Maxwell's virtual deposition before the House Oversight
  2. Committee ended, unsurprisingly, with her pleading the fifth. I therefore invoke my right to silence
  3. under the Fifth Amendment to the US Constitution. I invoke my Fifth Amendment right to silence. I invoke my Fifth Amendment right to silence. I
  4. Now, Maxwell's attorney, David Markus, did say that she would speak if granted clemency by President Trump while dangling the possibility of clearing both President Trump and President Bill
  5. Clinton. While that was playing out today on the Hill, it was also the first day here in Washington for lawmakers to be able to see the unredacted files.
  6. What the Justice Department did not put out as a result of the disclosures following that law that the president signed. Keep in mind, when you look through what the public can see, there's
  7. a lot of black ink, as you can see here. This is just one section of the files that were released back in December by the Justice Department. In some cases, page after page are fully redacted and
  8. hidden from the public, not always with explanation as to why. In some cases, the DOJ has said it was to protect victims or survivors. We saw members
  9. going in to visit the Justice Department, though, to see what is behind those blacked out pages. At least a few Democrats as they came out said they saw this.
  10. Donald Trump's name is all over these files. All over it. I mean, thousands and thousands of times. But there are clearly co-conspirators in here that they can name. Okay? I mean, in the
  11. documents I saw, we got pictures and their names. They're talking about sourcing girls. One Republican who saw those unredacted
  12. files today is one of the lawmakers who actually wrote the law forcing their release ultimately. Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massie is my next speaker tonight
  13. and thank you sir for for being here. That was Jamie Raskin and Jared Moskowitz's takeaway. Obviously we already knew Trump's name was mentioned in the files. You can see that publicly.
  14. What was your takeaway from what you saw behind there? Well, Jared is right. There are co-conspirators named in these files that have been redacted. And so I was
  15. surprised to find the names of six men in there. One is a sultan. He is He may not be a co-conspirator, but he's the one who sent the torture video.
  16. Another is a high-profile CEO, retired, who was listed as a co-conspirator, literally listed as a co-conspirator on
  17. FBI documents. And he had been redacted and his picture and his name. And then there were four men that are kind of in a list of 20 that includes
  18. Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein and some victims. And I was able to find those four names. So six names in there I'm asking the DOJ to unredact.
  19. So you had said that on on Twitter, Todd Blanched, who is the Deputy Attorney General, on the sultan part responded tonight and said he quote tweeted you
  20. and said you looked at the document, you know it's an email address that was redacted, the law requires redactions for personally identifiable information including an email address. And he said
  21. the sultan's name is available unredacted in the files. He says be honest and stop grandstanding. No, they redacted the email. Now it may be a
  22. mistake on their part or maybe they didn't intend to redact the sultan's involvement in this torture video. But it it is the sultan's email and then
  23. I put the sultan's email back into their computer and found the sultan's name. This is something you can't do at home. You can't do on the internet. And so I had to go in there and find it. This is
  24. an example of something maybe it wasn't intentional on their part. I'd like to hear his take on the redaction of the CEO who's listed as a co-conspirator in
  25. the 2019 child sex trafficking case. So, can I ask you because and I want to ask you if this is the same person, Todd Blanche also said about that tonight
  26. that the document you're citing there has victim names in it. Something to say that's why there are redactions. He said, "We have just unredacted Les Wexner's name from this document, but
  27. his name already appears in the file thousands of other times." And he says the Justice Department is hiding nothing. Is that the retired CEO?
  28. That you're referencing? >> [clears throat] >> It is. He unredacted it after I found it. That's a problem and I'm glad they have admitted they made a mistake by redacting that.
  29. >> So, you're saying it was redacted when you went in there today and after you tweeted that they unredacted it. >> Correct. Now, he's got four other names he needs
  30. to unredact. Did he respond to that? There's a list of 20 people. Um and there's four men in there that need to be unredacted. Here's another troubling thing that I found.
  31. >> Can you say who those four men are tonight? I don't think they're well-known and so if I did, it wouldn't matter, but I could probably say them on the floor of the house, but I'll give
  32. the DOJ a chance to do what they did in these two examples where I've discovered something and now they've responded. I want to give them a chance to respond and
  33. unredact those four names. But, here's another problem, big problem that I discovered. There's big black screens of complete redactions. When you go in there and
  34. look on the computer, sometimes you lift off the black ink and there's white ink redacting files. And so, when we asked the people in the room who weren't responsible for the
  35. redactions, they said, "Oh, we think those are how the files were given to us." Now, those are 302 forms that come from the FBI. And the FBI
  36. >> witness interview. >> Correct. Witness interview forms which would have the names of people who are implicated in crimes by the witnesses
  37. and the victims. You we can't see those. Now, the DOJ can say, "Well, this is how the FBI gave those two of us. Here's the problem with
  38. it. The legislation that Ro Khanna and I wrote makes the DOJ responsible for producing the documents, but it compels the FBI and US Attorney Generals to turn
  39. over those documents. So, they don't have the authority to just make random redactions. Here's another problem with the redactions. You know, the the DOJ put up files and then they pulled them
  40. back down. And in December, they pulled them back down, redacted a little more, and put them back up in some cases. Well, in this latest tranche, they've
  41. pulled files down, they haven't put them back up, and when I go over to the computers, I can't see the files they've pulled down. I have hard copies from where they were up on the internet.
  42. >> not even available internally to you, from what you can see. As far as I can tell. >> And you don't know why that is? I have no idea why that is, and I would
  43. hope that when I go back to the DOJ tomorrow, they'll make those files available. >> You mentioned that you may be able to say these names on the House floor. For people who don't know, that's because
  44. you're protected by a clause basically that provides immunity to representatives and senators for for things that you say in your legislative sphere,
  45. um for those actions. Are you willing to say those names on the floor? Oh, absolutely I am. If that If that will serve the survivors. If the survivors
  46. want me to, I'll do it. But in the meantime, this is the kind of progress we need to make. We need the DOJ to admit that these men were listed as
  47. co-conspirators in their own files, and then to release their own files, which it looks like Todd Blanche just did tonight. He admitted that and and
  48. there's This is a very significant admission on his part because you have the FBI Director Kash Patel who came to Congress and told us there was nothing
  49. in these files that implicates any other men in sex trafficking of minors. Yet, we've got a document now that Todd Blanche just unredacted tonight because
  50. I found it that shows that Lex Wexner was a co-conspirator, according to the FBI, in 2019 when Trump was president.
  51. >> And he's the former CEO of Victoria's Secret that was known to have have been in Epstein's circle. Can that moment when Kash Patel testified previously, he said
  52. they uncovered no credible information about Epstein trafficking underage girls to anyone besides himself. I want to play that moment of what he testified.
  53. Who, if anyone, did Epstein traffic these young women to besides himself? Himself. There is no credible
  54. information. None. If there were, I would bring the case yesterday that he trafficked to other individuals. And the information
  55. we have again is limited. So, the answer is no one? I'm asking you in that stuff there's nothing that's related to to any other sex traffic any other
  56. people engaged with Epstein in underage sex. >> That's correct. To my knowledge, no. Given what you saw today, does that testimony ring true to you still? No,
  57. the FBI's own documents from 2019 list Leslie Wexner as a co-conspirator in a child sex trafficking case.
  58. So, you know, they've got some explaining to do. Um Does that mean you think Kash Patel perjured himself?
  59. You know, I thought when he said that, maybe he what he's the trick he's using in his mind is that well, he's considering it prostitution and maybe
  60. what they have is evidence of sex trafficking of people who weren't minors. But, what we see tonight is the charge that Lex Wexner Wexner was a
  61. co-conspirator to was child sex trafficking and it's on the FBI's own documents from 2019. So, you're saying that should be investigated, basically.
  62. >> Should absolutely be investigated. The other problem with what Kash Patel said there is we got I believe his name's Leon Black is implicated in these files,
  63. too, as somebody that and and these are the attorneys at DOJ and in the New New York courts who were
  64. referencing a case on Black to the DOJ. They say that Epstein trafficked women to Leon Black. The The Justice
  65. Department previously said we did not redact [clears throat] any names of men, only female victims. You're saying you saw men's names redacted today, though. I did. I saw
  66. four in a list of 20. The other people on the list were Maxwell, Epstein, and mostly survivors that I recognized. And then four men who
  67. weren't trafficked because their date of birth predates 1970. Like they were all born in the '60s. And you see no reason why those men's names are redacted in
  68. these files. >> No, unless they were in some random lineup. But this This requires the DOJ to respond to it. Just like they responded to my two tweets tonight about
  69. the Saltan who had heretofore not been known and about Les Wexner who is in the files
  70. listed as a co-conspirator on the on the file that they unredacted tonight. >> And you're going back tomorrow to view more documents, is that correct? You know, if I can just look at 40 documents
  71. and find six men, I'm going to go back and look at more of these millions of documents. Congressman Thomas Massie, please give us updated on what you see. Thanks, Caitlan. Thanks for your time
  72. tonight.

Comments

You have to be logged in. A comment stays up until three different people flag it. Then it comes down. Nobody on our side reads the queue.

Log in with a passkey to comment. No password.