Thomas Massie & MTG on Timcast IRL: The Lawsuit Against Pelosi

Name: Thomas Massie & MTG on Timcast IRL: The Lawsuit Against Pelosi
Uploaded: 2022-02-10
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Description: With Marjorie Taylor Greene on Tim Pool's Timcast IRL discussing their First Amendment lawsuit against Speaker Pelosi over House proxy-voting fines.

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With Marjorie Taylor Greene on Tim Pool's Timcast IRL discussing their First Amendment lawsuit against Speaker Pelosi over House proxy-voting fines.

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there's this really big story going around claiming that the bite administration was funding the distribution of crack pipes snopes ran one of the greatest fact
checks i've ever seen where they said it's mostly false he's also giving out syringes and i'm like i don't know how that makes it false but i guess
in some strange technicality you can argue the story is not true because there's more to the story well now the white house is disputing it claiming their safe their safe smoking kit is
actually not it doesn't include crack pipes but if you actually look up standard safe smoking kits given out for drug intervention it includes meth pipes
and crack pipes so i don't understand why theirs wouldn't have that kind of think they're lying but joe biden's approval rating is in the gutter it's lower than trump's was at the same time
in aggregate so this is all the polls combined i think it's fair to say that joe biden has done a miserable job we got a lot to talk about and joining us to talk about that and so much more are
two incredible members of congress we have thomas massey and marjorie taylor green uh thomas do you want to start by introducing yourself um i'm from kentucky i'm a high-tech redneck grew up
as a hillbilly still a hillbilly went to mit live off the grid of for some crazy reason i ran for congress and here i am
mit hillbilly sounds like a good sitcom to be honest yeah you could come to our house and watch it because my wife is an mit hillbilly and
we have a son who's an mit hillbilly wow cool cool i'm really excited to hear about the klux capacitor your chicken technology latest invention on the farm
sweet i'm a big chicken fan so we'll talk about that marjorie you want to introduce yourself yes um my name is marjorie taylor green from georgia um freshman member of congress and i don't
i'm i'm i'm kind of like you thomas i'm i question myself sometimes like what made me run but i think uh america's worth saving and happy to be here with
my good friend thomas massey and join you all so this is gonna be a lot of fun excited to have you both and we also have seamus coughlin of freedom tunes yes jameis coughlin freedom tunes it's a
political cartooning channel where i upload new animations every thursday we have one coming out tomorrow about the feds that i think is pretty funny we're very happy with it and i also released
one two days ago about joe rogan and fauci tim was in it yeah what's up everybody the voice of dr fountain and it was it was really well done great thank you and welcome hey ian crossland
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been going around that everybody can't stop talking about newsweek reports white house says crack pipes never included in safe smoking kits i think
this story is particularly interesting to me because i can understand wanting to intervene to help people who are addicted to drugs to lower drug infection rates to get them into safe
environments and help them get off drugs the problem i have with this story is that for one i think the white house is lying about not including crack pipes and i think giving crack pipes to people
or meth pipes and other drugs syringes will just increase the amount that they're actually doing so i just want to mention one thing in reference to this story if you do a
google search and look up harm reduction supplies and safe smoking kits glass stems crack pipes and meth pipes are typically included in them now that
we've gotten that out of the way i don't know if our good friends from congress have any insights into the story or what was going on is it true is it false and what do you think about it
um i would like to say that fact checker itself i reject the phrase i mean it's a synonym for corporate shill or leftist
propagandist amen so that's my take on fact checkers well believe a word they say no i don't believe a word they say either and
actually i find it appalling that joe biden and the biden administration would give out crack pipes in these safe smoking kits you know we do want to see
people get off of drugs i think that's extremely important but i think biden doesn't care about drugs he doesn't care about people dying fentanyl is coming across our border at a
terrible rate um fentanyl poisoning is now the number one cause of death uh of ages 18 to 45 years old and so joe
biden's all for drug use right he's all for fentanyl he's all for smoking meth smoking crack whatever it may be it's absolutely appalling but the one
thing he doesn't support the one safe drug he doesn't support is ivermectin so i think this is a serious problem well as always people should be getting medical advice from trusted medical
professionals and i don't care if it's a politician i don't care if it's a celebrity you got to get that advice from somewhere else the story the part of the story that makes me laugh is okay
let's just say for a minute all right there's no crack pipes here right they've denied it no crack pipes does the safe smoking kit include meth pipes then because that's typically involved
the issue is even snopes acknowledged the point of this program is to give priority to minorities to smoke these drugs
so that means that think about this for two seconds like the bite administration is basically saying we're going to be funding programs that distribute drugs and and
drug paraphernalia to minorities i don't think that's going to solve the problem of racism are they actually distributing drugs as well or is this just a paraphernalia program i think it's
paraphernalia okay just make sure it's clear clarified like syringes and stuff like that but if like i'll put it this way if there's like a white dude he's a drug addict there's like a black dude he's a drug addict and your program says
give the drug the supplies to the to the minority that means you're gonna have less white people doing drugs and more minorities doing drugs that sounds awfully racist or more more white people
getting sick from from dirty needles and and that's also horrible and raising wait a minute wait a minute have we we haven't voted on any funding for this how are they doing it
we've given them broad swaths i don't know how they do it i don't remember reading this in any building we have voted on one thing though in our judiciary committee
and that is to make sure there's parity in drug sentencing laws between crack and powder cocaine because in the beginning
it was actually the the african-american communities who wanted maximum sentences for these evil people that were destroying their communities for crack
they should but then they decided that it was racist to over prosecute crack in comparison to powder cocaine so a lot of states have
made it uh made parity between the sentencing laws between these two and so we've had votes in congress to restore parity to get rid of any racial bias i don't think people should be going to
prison for doing drugs i think they need help i don't know how do you guys feel about that i think drugs are so destructive i mean like i said right now the drugs that are
coming across the border just a record rate through the mexican cartels are laced with fentanyl and if if young people are dying if the number one cause of death
for young people is fentanyl poisoning i think drugs are a real problem i really do is it is it number one it's number one number one cause of death it's not
coveted 19. it's fentanyl poisoning no i think we have the constitutional authority to regulate it at the border but uh let's be honest when they wanted
to outlaw alcohol they recognized at the time they had to do it through a constitutional amendment so states might be able to do this and the
feds might be able to do it at the border but i don't think we have the constitutional authority to ban substances at the federal government level yeah i mean honestly i agree i
don't i think you know the problem is we talked about a bit last night we want people to not do drugs and so personally i think locking people in
prison for imbibing something sounds really really awful especially if it's something hurting them and they're addicted and they need help so you look at these other countries you
know portugal was big but they offer people help you know my understanding is it's still illegal to do these things in public giving out these supplies and funding
the stuff seems like they read a pamphlet about it and then decided to throw money on it without actually investigating what it's going to do because it sounds good i just watched leanna wen from cnn talking about how i
think times are changing the science has changed and things are changing and now we got to think about how depression and how like despair is doing damage to people so maybe this is a way to help
people cope with their despair because maybe drug addiction is up i wouldn't be surprised sure joe biden's like have a crack pipe yeah well and also throughout the
pandemic deaths from drug overdoses have increased yeah so is suicide yes it's tragic it really is but if it saves just one life right yeah
i love the facts on this though like you were mentioning fact checkers isn't it kind of crazy there at that point where fact checkers for the most part obscure
the facts to make it harder for you to understand what's going on yeah that's and the question is what is their purpose and who is paying them i dug deep into factcheck.org and and looked
at their corporate records and they receive funding from the robert wood johnson foundation which holds two billion dollars of j j stock which is a vaccine manufacturer the money they
receive is earmarked for vaccine fact checking what really yeah so i taught i taunted them on twitter and dared them to fact check me on on my facts on them
and so their fact checks didn't deny the fact that they were taking money from this organization as two billion dollars of vaccine manufacture stock they said that
i was wrong because the vaccine manufacturer has no editorial con control over what they say but i never said that right and as if it matters to
be honest right they owned the fact check program i didn't say they have editorial control what's the name of the company that's taking the 2 billion from johnson johnson robert wood johnson
they they were started with johnson and johnson stock it's one of the founders of johnson johnson and they say they're trying to diversify it but the reality
is they still hold two billion dollars and they're getting money from that do you know how much of it is earmarked for um propaganda i guess if that's the right word well
they give it to factcheck.org and their entire program which is probably not a big program it's like one leftist reporter from pennsylvania somewhere
is funded with it and then they just pay for ads with it or something like facebook ads or they hire people yeah they pay this one reporter who's not a
scientist so think about it the taxpayers are funding the people to be in charge of what's information and what's misinformation what gets me is
that makes no sense if you draw a six on a table and you ask one guy what is that he says it's six the other guy says it's a nine and then the fact checkers come in they get to decide which one of us is right and they get to decide who gets
banned who gets demonetized who gets removed yep well and then here's what i love about the science change like that lyanna when woman or whatever is that her name yeah yes that's a cnn doctor
she's like the science changed and now all of a sudden they're trying to reopen and the covid restrictions my problem with this is we have a ton of studies coming out of
india and sweden that say certain things so just leave it at that that's not the science changing that's those studies are bad then all of a sudden one study comes out
and they say oh look the science changed we're going to change our policy what no they're picking and choosing what is the science apparently dr fauci
himself is the science and he decides and then that's the direction they go yeah i mean if you criticize him you're criticizing science but yeah on the the note of these fact checkers when you
look at snopes for example a couple years ago there was a huge controversy where they were fact-checking the babylon b which publishes satire articles and part of the issue with that
is it was actually demoting their content in the algorithm and just to give you an insight into how honest this organization is referring to
snopes they double down on this instead of admitting that it was ridiculous to fact check satire and they said we conducted a study which showed that a lot of
people believe these articles are real well this is what they did they took headlines that were obviously jokes and rewarded them to sound like they weren't jokes so one example was democrats vow
to close dangerous gun buying loophole known as the second amendment and that was a babylon b article it was rewarded by snopes to say cory
booker is one of several prominent democrats to describe the second amendment as a dangerous loophole that allows people to buy guns and then they asked people if they thought that was a real story and when people said yes they
said see that means they believed the satirical babylon b headline was true it's true it's truly amazing isn't it well they're in charge of the information or at least they've put
themselves in charge of the information but just as thomas was just pointing out the taxpayers are funding them to be in charge of the information by the way quick story when the vaccines
first came out the pfizer data the top line data was out there and the cdc issued a report and said that it was the vaccine
data showed that the vaccine was 92 efficacious if you'd already had covid and i thought well that's a remarkable claim
and so i went and looked at the data and it showed it was there was actually a negative correlation for those who had already had covet if they took the vaccine this is pfizer's own trial data
so i'm a congressman i called up the cdc and they took my call surprising right yeah and the director in washington dc said i'll get my top
scientists on the line i said i think it's a typo so she she calls me back with her top scientists and she said we're going to call you eagle eye massey
we don't know how we printed this we it's a mistake we don't know how it made it in here and i was like well okay well you're going to fix it right oh yeah
we'll fix it and i said so are you going to are you going to do an errata are you going to change the pdf that's up there like i got into the technicalities
and so i thought it was all fixed the vaccine comes out older people in kentucky couldn't get it because younger people were taking it who had already had coven
but the data was never fixed the data was never a month later somebody said oh the cdc says this i went back and look they never fixed the lie and the the lie
is obvious it's knowable today so you're saying there's a negative correlative data meaning that after someone received the vax or if someone had received code and then they got vaccine there was a less was less resistance than if they
hadn't had covenant got the best it was minus seven percent but they had so little data it's hard to draw any conclusion like the fact that they even
claimed they could say it was 92 was ridiculous this is early on earlier this was when the vaccine first came out this was early december december 14th of
2020 right well as it's gone on though we've learned more but really the truth is when there's talking about the science changing like she was talking
about on cnn y'all it has nothing to do with science it's all about polling it's about politics and this is an election year and this is why democrats are starting to loosen up we saw new jersey
taking away their mass mandates other states and they're easing off because they know they're in trouble this is a major issue parents do not want their kids masked i will i will issue the
obligatory talk to your medical professional about what's right for you and data changes so make sure you're double checking a lot of the stuff because uh you know we don't have anything pulled
up but uh youtube is very very gruesome these days by the way i have a recordings of those phone calls that's what i was going to ask you do you normally record everything when you make calls to these people no i normally do
not it's not something i would ever do with another congressman for instance but you publish them uh i gave them to cheryl atkinson who did sort of an
expose and she picked the portions of the phone calls i mean there there's like an hour of recordings because i published five or six i should just release them all yeah yeah
yeah absolutely well let's talk let's talk about the polling date and how it's changing so you know uh margery you're just mentioning it's not about science it's about polling right now we're seeing you know
new york illinois you mentioned new jersey they're starting to pull back on their mandates we have the story from timcast.com president biden's approval rating falls below 40 according to new
poll the rate marks an all-time average low for biden at 30 was it 39.8 in the real clear politics average that is i
believe like two two or three points lower than where donald trump was at the same time in his presidency i think it's fair to say the democrats
have gotten the message when you look at civics data it's a website the civic spell of the queue you can see that on economics on covid
on the direction of government independent voters and republicans are very much in alignment republicans absolutely think the economy is trash
independent voters think the economy is very very bad democrat voters think the economy is good somehow i don't know why they must be watching too much cnn yes
but that tracks true for almost every issue wow black lives matter support uh the covid response democrats think joe biden did a great job independent voters
republicans are kind of like well republicans are like it's miserable independent voters are like it's pretty bad so so you know it's it's weird
that we have democrats the voter base believing something that most americans or at least independent voters republicans don't i think obviously it's
media but i think the media narrative is breaking that's why democrats are going down in the polls so it's not even just the polls it's that they've lost control of the narrative which results in the
polls tanking which results in them saying whatever they got to say to try and win especially this year i totally agree well you can't lie to people over and over when they see
something different in their everyday life when they're going to the gas pump and gas is up to almost four dollars a gallon when they're going to the grocery store and the store shelves are empty
and and food prices have gone up and then when they're taking their kids to school and their children are healthy and no one their children are just fine after two years of covered 19 but yet
they're still being forced to wear masks and then there's children you know suffering like with speech therapy and different type of you know special needs kids these masks are terrible for them
and and so yeah it's it is a real issue and you can't lie to people over and over again on the news and when they see something different in their everyday life stacy abrams
alyssa slotkin you know stacey abram's sitting out with all these kids wearing masks and she's not doing it yeah i mean they're basically telling you they don't care they don't care let me say something
about stacey abrams because she's running for governor in my state that picture was infuriating to me i'm a mom i've got three kids now my kids are older but stacey abrams she is in the
height one of the highest risk factors for coven 19 she's obese she is she's obese i'm not trying to say anything terrible about anyone but that is the state of her health
she's sitting on the floor without a mask in front of all these children who who are not at high risk of covid19 that those are the facts that's on the cdc
that is the data that science has not changed she sits there without a mask i mean it was infuriating to me there's no way
parents in georgia to want that woman to be the governor of our state when that's how she views children that she is better than them and that they have to sit there with a mask on while she gets
to take hers off why did she do it did you guys know what was the purpose of that photo it was really really badly right for her it's not the first time we've seen a democrat who advocates for
masks not wear one a picture recently of obama we saw nancy pelosi getting her hair done we saw whitmer the same thing i think they're just liars
they're they're lying about how they really feel about masks and if they want they if they don't do you see that video of rashida taleb saying she's on camera
saying something like i only wear this when the republicans are around or they're filming me or something it's it's it's the weirdest we can talk about masks i'm gonna let thomas start
in the house of representatives there's a rule that you have to wear a mask but guess what it only applies when you're in front of cameras huh what yes no yes
yes either the only place they enforce the rule is in a committee where there are cameras or on the floor of the house not in the hallways and when you go in
the hallways oh wow you'll see democrats take their masks off it's been that way for over a year the whole yeah it's been there ever since i it's been that way the whole time for me only if there's
cameras sure now is that is it but i don't wear mine is that codified in the rules like it says in the presence of cameras or no it doesn't say in the presence of cameras
functionally they just don't enforce it unless cameras are around they functionally do not enforce it anywhere but on the floor or in a committee where they're incredible
where i have over 100 000 in mask fines and uh my good friend thomas massey and i have something fun going on i'm going
to let you tell so uh one day pelosi goes out the the media says when are you going to lift the masks fines or the masks rule in the house because remember
there was a period of time where if you'd been vaccinated you could take your mask off right and most of congress had been vaccinated so they asked pelosi and she said until every member of
congress is vaccinated everybody's going to wear a mask and i realized okay the mask rule is now morphing into a vaccine rule
and so i organized i don't want to say i led but i organized 10 members of congress and marjorie was among them to go to the floor of the house and
notoriously and openly violate this mask rule in front of the c-span cameras and we were promptly fined for our transgressions and if she had just sent
the bill to georgia for marjorie's case or to kentucky in my case she would have been fine we would have thrown them in the trash and she
wouldn't have got her money but what she did is she reduced our salaries that's right whoa takes it off on the front end how does she do that well she violates the constitution to do
it because the constitution says that the salaries are set by law and drawn from the treasury to be set by law a law has to pass the senate and be signed by
the president the 27th amendment to the constitution the very last one to be ratified ratified in 1992 but suggested during the bill of rights says that
congressional salaries can't vary without an intervening election now why did they do that a lot of people think it was so we wouldn't give ourselves a raise that could be partly
true but in reality if you go back and look at the debates they decided if anybody could get control of a person's sustenance of their salary they could
bend their will pretty easily and so they made sure that you couldn't vary it until there was an election such a rich yeah then but even that i mean
marjorie's got a hundred thousand dollars of fines oh the next thing they did because they figured out they can't stop me from refusing to wear a mask because they figured out i truly will
not stop doing it no matter how much they find me and we are going to have a very successful lawsuit i'm thrilled about it um he's explained it perfectly
so they sent a letter uh a letter was sent to sergeant-at-arms saying that they should put anyone without a mask up and up into the coveted box and and no
one really no the public doesn't know about the coveted box because it's not in view of the c-span cameras the coveted box nancy pelosi had it built
right before this the vote for speaker of the house in january of 2021 it is a plexi glass box up in the corner of the house chamber now the plexiglas
doesn't go all the way to the ceiling and it's supposed to be the the original design was for any house member uh to go there if they were sick or having
symptoms of covid19 it wasn't for well people uh unvaccinated people or people without masks it was only for sick
people but then catherine clark who who called representative catholic representative catherine clark sent a letter to the sergeant-at-arms because they're so offended um at me or any or
thomas or anyone not wearing a mask and they want to put us up in the in the covered box in the penalty box yeah sounds like we're going to check you up into the penalty box this is beyond
i i when i think about how bad congress is you know the first time you came marjorie explained how they don't even really vote on the bills they just like i nay and then just like don it sounds
like congress isn't a real thing it's like it's like a theater to make americans think there's something actually being done about our problems speaking of theater do you remember the
title of this person who wants us in the box now yes oh yes what was her title assistant speaker assistant speaker of the house we think that her real title
is assistant to the speaker right and then she just marked out that's what's that's a joke from the office yeah
that's right i think it's funny that we're all sitting here laughing and it sounds like the institution is just completely in decay and falling oh it gets worse we
can tell you more well i i was the guy that everybody hated by the way i was the most hated person in washington dc now i'm just the most hated man now that
marjorie is there but before marjorie got there in 2020 march 27 2020 tenth day of flattening the curve congress decided to spend two trillion dollars
with nobody there and taking no vote this is my favorite story thomas massey story one of my favorites i got in the car and drove to washington dc and
objected and i said the constitution requires a quorum to be here in order to pass this bill and they hated me nancy pelosi called me a dangerous nuisance
tell him what a quorum is a quorum would be at least half of congress needs to show up to pass which is how many people 218. how many how many were there well they
were going to do it with one in the speaker's chair and one on the floor they were going to do it with two people that's like it so remember i was telling you they they'll pass bills with only a
couple people in there saying yes or no that is exactly what he's talking about they were going to spend how much money two trillion dollars with two people in
there the speaker and one other person so they they said it was too dangerous for them to come and vote meanwhile they're going to the grocery store and expecting a grocer to be there and
somebody to bag their groceries they expect the truck drivers to be driving they expect the ups guy to show up the nurses to be there unvaccinated
healthcare workers right nobody was vaccinated at the time by the way so anyways i i stood up i objected i said i'm here today to make sure that
our our republic doesn't die in an empty chamber by unanimous consent is it like a cryptographic uh vulnerability to vote by just vote digitally and then confirm
it with a video chat well okay they they hadn't by the way i think they need a constitutional amendment to do that um
what they have come up with since then is a vote by proxy where a human being tells another human being on the floor vote for me this way so that they can't
be compromised it's basically human so it works like this i say to my friend thomas massey i'm going to just stay in georgia this week while congress is in
session thomas will you vote for me and then thomas goes sure i'll be your proxy and so i can i've never done this by the way and i will not do it and i haven't
either yeah we don't participate but this is what members of congress do some of them have just hardly ever shown up literally hardly ever shown up and
someone else just votes for them so this is like a representative having a representative that sounds like they're not doing their job they're not doing their job unless you count their job as going to fundraisers
i mean they will literally attend fundraisers that's right instead of coming to votes do you think term limits will end these these fun non-stop fundraisers i don't
think so i i don't think i mean i've sponsored term limits i'm for term limits let's try it but i'm for it the problem is not that
the people who've been there a long time sell out it's the problem is that people get there and sell out on day one and then you have people who announce their retirements and you would think
well now they're unchained they they've no obligations and they'll vote their conscience no they once they know that they're no longer going to be there the voting
record doesn't improve if anything their attendance goes down and yeah adviser or something the ones that are retiring i'll give you an example adam kinzinger
that's well we don't know what he is what is he he's nancy pelosi's little little baby boy so anyways adam kenzinger he he
voted yes with the democrats competes act last week he was the only republican to vote yes for it so he's not running for congress again so he has completely
sold out and voting whichever way the democrats are happy with but um back to thomas's story which how much of this do you want me to
tell it's up to you oh my gosh i had president trump yelling at me oh my he called me up that day for the for the having the audacity to say that members
of congress should show up and vote yelling at you for what uh i don't know he was afraid it might slow down the process of getting two trillion
dollars out the door and twelve hundred dollar checks in the mailbox well let's reference whether you remember this it was in march of 2020 it was the shutdown
no one knew what covid was going to do everyone was freaking out people they didn't know what the outcome was going to be so president trump was pushing
through thomas massey was trying to say no we have to do this correctly we still have a constitution that has not gone away and i'm proud of him i totally support him for what he did so he said he said
he would on the phone he told me he was going to come at me like i'd never seen never never in your life before have you seen the way in which i will come at you
awesome yeah i feel like he also reminded me which is true he's more popular than me in kentucky and he said it would be the end of me
and i i tried to tell him this was constitutional and we needed to do it this way and it would still pass anyway because most people were for it we just couldn't break the constitution today
and he repeated you know i'm coming at you like you've never seen never in your life before have you seen the way in which i will come at you and then he he
said that i was a he i didn't know what that meant but before i got back to my seat i i found out he said i was a third-rate grandstander
on twitter on twitter yeah and you're in trouble when that happens yeah and that i should be thrown out of the gop and and some other stuff so when i walked
out of the floor having objected and making everybody show up to work which they hated by the way they still wouldn't take a recorded vote even though they had a quorum they would not
put their names on that bill and when i walked out the the press wanted to know what i had to say for myself that my own president had called me a third-rate
grandstander and i looked at him i said i was offended i'm at least second rate [Laughter] did you guys see that story it was it was several months ago
actually but video recently got released of planes coming into new york carrying illegal immigrants undocumented so uh they were being uh shuffled into i think
tennessee and the uh the biden administration was using military flights air force to bring you know undocumented kids illegal immigrants across the country we got video released
of one of these moments so there was a big story about these planes landing in westchester new york video body camera footage is released so
these co these federal contractors refusing to show id refusing to explain what they're doing the police who are doing security at the airport are like what are what is this this flight is past curfew you're not supposed to be
landing who are these people where are their ids and then one of the federal contractors said something to the effect of if the american you know you know
help us if the american people find out what's what's going on what we're doing and the cop says why and he goes because the government has betrayed the people and that's a line from this leaked footage of the new york post had this i
see stories like that and it makes and everything you're telling me right now and it really feels to me you know one of the reasons the media dislikes you
guys so much especially you marjorie is because you are regular people and you've somehow got into the room and they're they're they're you know they're holding
their wine glasses pinkies i'm like oh heavens you know like the help is in here like what do we do like the please pretty sure they said that you you guys both you guys both were like basically
independently wealthy or and had enough that you didn't need to make money out of congress when you got there i would imagine i know you said you had a construction company yes we have a construction company but for me it was
more about i i've i've got so disappointed in republicans not doing what they said they were going to do and i just got so concerned and i thought
you know what i'm going to run for congress and and hold them accountable and actually i want to be part of a republican conference that does the things that say that we say we're about
and also i mean i i'm i never apologize for this and i and i always say it i'm very proud i've always supported president trump and i loved his policies
and so when i was running for congress he was running for reelection for a second term and that was something i wanted to be a part of i really wanted to be a part of a republican member of
congress hopefully finishing out his america first agenda um now i i don't like the spending i'm also honest about that i
want to see or we should have a balanced budget actually i'd like to see a budget that makes a profit i'd like to pay off the debt these are things that i think we should be working towards but um he
was the first uh you know president that i was that i believed in because i felt like every other politician and and most of the time they've been selling out our
country they've moved for decades they've moved us into this global economy which is hurting every single american that's outside of politics
that's selling our country out and so you know not not it wasn't about money or a career choice at all for me it was about i feel like i have to do this you
know for my kid's future and and i didn't trust anyone else to do it when you think about debt do you think that we could default on the interest to the federal reserve
i think we have serious problems i don't think our dollar is is going to be worth anything pretty soon and i think uh china is is has positioned itself so
well and because of our politicians who have have moved us into this i mean we're hunter biden hunter biden should be in jail but there's many other people
dianne feinstein many of the other people who have have positioned and and worked america into these these this global economy and and companies
corporations and their interests you know i i really worry about the dollar being worth anything at all with everything we've seen that you know inspired you both to get involved in
congress how optimistic or pessimistic are you do you you think we're doomed do you think you know we've got sunshine heading our ways or what's going on
well let me let me clarify something ian said first i'm not independently wealthy i'm just independent i live off the grid we raise a lot of
our own food i don't need the job if i didn't have the job we could go back and sustain ourselves on our farm and so that's where i draw my strength not that i've
got a big bank account yeah wealth doesn't even mean money well you know don't need it we don't need it i mean um so um so that's where i draw my strength
when i go to mordor just want to call it you know so are you guys optimistic based on your time look look i'll put it this way you you've told us
a lot already that's like really bad you know the covet box the not voting on things are trying to shuffle through trillions of dollars and i'm just like you've got to be
particularly jaded at this point right so i i'm jaded but i'm not apathetic i still want to fight but the process is
getting worse and worse rank and file members are excluded from the actual legislative process more and more the only vote you take
that matters is at the beginning of the year when you vote for speaker and then basically there's a top-down structure that's in control of the
legislation this is why to ian's point about term limits there are permanent staff there i'm not talking about the staff that work in marjorie's office or
my office but they're i call him the deep congress there's the the staff that will be there when we are long gone and they were there before us and if when
they so choose they could go work on k street or maybe they came from there term limits for staff that would be a big deal that would be a huge deal because he's right thomas is
right the staff never leaves but members of congress come and go how do i feel i always have hope um i'm a christian i'm very open about my christian faith so i
always keep hope and and and i think that's the best way to look at every single situation we find ourselves in no matter how dark it looks i will tell you
what happened this past week what we found out through our one of our colleagues troy nels from texas um the story he told about one of his staff on
november 20th coming into his office during thanksgiving week and finding capitol police in his office that had been taking pictures of
congressman nell's um white board and things in his office and then questioning his staff without a warrant or anything like that
questioning him about things on the whiteboard that that terrified me but then we also found out louis gomer louis gomer uh congressman louis gomer from
texas also told a story and showed evidence he actually showed it a mail that was supposed to come to him to his office but it went to the department of
justice and then the department of justice had opened the mail restamped it and then they delivered it to him that should never happen and then what i've
been through um you know in our office buildings are closed to the public right now public cannot come in unless you get permission from one of our offices but there's people that work in the
building that vandalize and attack signs right outside my office door and those are people that work in the building the the amount of death threats i receive
are in you know some of the top um of all members of congress that concerns me for my own safety so when we're adding up all these things and and we don't
know what's going on it's it's terrifying i don't this should never happen in in our in our congress
i've requested for months i have asked over and over for the sergeant-at-arms and capitol police to put us a camera in the hallway right above my office and
guess what no camera it should be live streamed i mean that could be they can pay for they can pay for illegals to fly across the country in the middle of the night and we haven't voted on that have
we in secret if not and then the contractors admit to the body cameras that they've betrayed the country i'm just gonna i'm just gonna jump right into that uh that hot tub and
say it if you're if we're at the point where the public is barred from these buildings and political rivals who who work there are vandalizing your offices when you've
got accusations let alone if it's true like maybe maybe troy's wrong about this maybe the capital piece are right it doesn't matter when you have such a hard divide where one side says capitol
police dressed as construction workers broke into my office photographed protected materials and then interrogated my staff a few days later about it civil war
i mean if the january 6 committee if democratic establishment uniparty players are willing to use law enforcement and vandalism physical attacks
to get their way to win if they're going to subpoena the former administration his staff and members of the media costing them hundreds of thousands of dollars we are beyond
elected representative government it is now ruled by force whoever can command the most amount of power this is the precursor in my opinion to hot civil war
tim i think you're perfectly phrasing the way most people feel when they're watching what's happening in washington dc it's it's it's not what happens in
america this is what we see happen in communist countries this is where we see you know some people rise up and and topple the regime that's in control and
then they become the next dictator this is we don't see this in america i i stay away from the term civil war i do not like it because i don't like violence i
i was very upset on january 6 with that riot it was it was the worst day of my life i'd just never seen anything like it so that is not something i i go near
but i will say this shouldn't happen this we shouldn't be treated like political enemies in such a way where they may be spying on you know sending
people to spy on our legislation or or or not protecting our lives like i feel like they're not protecting my life um or you know
putting us making us go through metal detectors to go vote where the entire room is on camera it just it's it's totally out of control one of the things
that um was floated the last time we talked to you was that democratic groups are going to try and use legis uh lawsuits the judicial system to bar you from re-election and
we're seeing that now with madison hawthorne they've filed claiming he's an insurrectionist for speaking at a rally thus he's ineligible for office that is
shockingly dangerous because what happens when you get a partisan judge who agrees or disagrees and then one side or the other side says oh they only issued this
ruling because of their affiliation and then let's say let's say they do disqualify madison cawthorn is he going to just be like well i guess i'm not in congress anymore or is he going to say
no i'm the duly elected representative and i'm going to to the capitol and then what happens when the police bar him from entry what happens to the people in his state who expect representation when
they don't get it well marjorie saw this she was punished for something that happened before she was elected and they won't even say what it was she was removed from all of her
committees now she was still allowed as a congressperson to be a congressperson but it's kind of like a second class they're trying to demote
her too because she has no committees the the voters litigate this okay the voters there's 750 000 to 800 000
people in every congressional district and those people and those people alone should decide if you are eligible if you've done something that disqualifies
you it shouldn't be the party that's in power when you get there who gets to decide that's right the elections are there for a purpose but what tim's talking about is terrifying they're
trying to actually block madison cawthorn from being allowed to be on the ballot in north carolina um and so that's why he's had to file that lawsuit but here's something really interesting
so let's turn it a little bit maxine waters went on the ground in minnesota was it minnesota not even her home state she's from california
so she goes down there and she's you know basically inciting a riot inciting violence no one moved to block her from
being on the ballot and so that's why this this is totally out of control i agree with thomas elections it should be up to the people they should be able to
choose who their representative is but this plan that was launched by mark elias who is the democrat election attorney and he's put he tweets about it
all the time on his twitter page mark elias um this this is an this is a plan that is uh way out of bounds completely out of bounds i think it's one of the
most dangerous things i mean look what's one congress person anyway i mean you want to get your legislation passed then my i would view the democrats as just
the appropriate thing to be to say was let's try and win where we can win and recognize we'll lose where we're going to lose for them to go out and be like let's file specialty lawsuits that
bypass elections to bar people we don't like from being in congress let me throw it to pennsylvania where we had that uh lawsuit over
universal mail and voting which has since been ruled unconstitutional proving the republicans in that state right and simultaneously wrong because they were the ones who negotiated the deal in the first place it was stupid
but that's besides the point when it went to the lower court judge the lower court judge said on the merits of this lawsuit it seems that universal mailing voting in
pennsylvania violates the constitution and the republicans will likely win on those merits it's got to go to a higher court the higher court's public response
was you guys are republicans and you took too long so you lose a judge shouldn't be looking at a person and saying because of your political affiliation i rule for or against you so
what happens when madison hawthorne goes to this ghost he's filed a counter suit arguing he is eligible for for to be on the bout to run they go before a judge
maybe the judge is a democrat the well-known democrat judge says not lawsuits correct madison you're off the ballot are the constituents of madison's
district going to be like okay we accept that from this judge or are they going to say no we have voted on this and what do those people do and what happens if madison then goes
to congress and says the people have chosen me let me in and the capitol police say no see this is where it's getting in very dangerous territory and that is that is
where people could be invoked to do things they shouldn't have to do i mean it's a terrible scenario to even think about but here's
the ultimate goal what they really want is if they can remove madison cawthorne off of the ballot on north carolina they can remove president trump and block him
from ever being allowed to be on the ballot in north carolina and if if a president if a presidential candidate cannot be on one single state it's
impossible to win the election and it's all about the elect electoral college votes it's the count if he's not on north carolina he cannot win if he's
running again in 2024. yeah i think it's also more than that that may be the main thing but look it's about intimidating members of
congress because that congressional district in north carolina is going to send a republican to congress it's not about them trying to
get some leverage in the majority and to get another democrat there they are trying to silence madison cawthorne and if they can affect that then they will
have intimidated everybody else and now they'll be more cautious and careful and and about what they say and and to be honest uh except
for marjorie republicans republicans do scare very easily they're very they're very scared of the new york times opinion page you know uh often they're more more concerned about the
opinion of the new york times and their own constituents there are very few politicians in general i mean look the democrats tend to walk in lockstep they capitulate to the far left relatively
often the republicans have a handful of people who are principled and stand up for the most part a lot of them are just like i don't want to offend anybody i better just play ball which is why you
end up with republican with democrats saying ban all guns and republicans saying no wait don't a strong republican should be saying unban all the guns
exactly give them out to everybody well that's what thomas says exactly well that's why you guys are probably good this is probably why dan crenshaw canceled on us twice and i'm not trying
to be disrespectful but it's true dan crenshaw agreed to come on the show he had he canceled he said there was a vote i said that's no big deal you owe us nothing and well they communicate i'm
saying personally but you know the communications with their producer and then he was supposed to come on yesterday and we got word there was a scheduling conflict i mean this is this is this is how it goes with the
overwhelming majority of politicians there's very few that actually are principled people who can speak candidly and honestly and don't have to worry about tripping over their own fake words
who who canceled today that you had to invite marjorie and i who canceled them they were like everyone get out margaery and thomas are coming
alex jones is the greatest dude he has been so cancelled he's a wild entertainer and a brilliant man isn't he fantastic
no one is perfect and everyone is capable of incredible violence and incredible love so yes shout out to alex jones we love you and i have no problem like they they they
try and i i don't know what these these leftist media personalities think they're getting by trying to insult me or you know accuse me of things because i literally don't care and it's
not going to change my i'm never going to bend the knee to their stupid whims or whatever alex jones is a journalist and member of the media end of story you don't you can say he's wrong you can say
he's fake news you could accuse him of being incorrect and not fact-checking and i think there's valid criticism in a lot of what alex jones says absolutely but he runs a media organization and so
when the january 6 commit committee subpoenas him they are basically violating our first amendment protections the the press isn't supposed to be
you know the press can say what they want to say and and and you know i love this was really going to offend them all alex jones is a journalist the same as
brian stelter and jake tapper and don lemon are you absolutely i was actually saying the same thing but some people are going to be like don't insult alex that way well yeah yeah alex jones never
lied us into a war right right right so and why does the new york times and cnn get to say that trump is guilty of russia collusion yes when it was never
proven that it's actually proven yeah i want to make a point you you don't have to try and prove you're a journalist to enjoy first amendment protection also yeah exactly they're
occasionally you know the big newspapers will come to congress with suggestions for extra protections that they might receive and it should extend to anybody whether
there's one person listening to your podcast or whether they're 10 million people subscribing to your newspaper i want to follow up on asking
about legalizing guns because i hear you are interested in that when you talk about that are you like tim sometimes says repeal the second amendment i think he's not in our own section not repeal the second amendment that's
the opposite of that yeah what do you say repeal all gun laws and make everything like what about nuclear weapons repeal the nfa and abolish the agency so how far policy how far do you take it with destructive
weaponry that you think people should be legally allowed to possess so well let's look to the purpose what was the purpose of the constitution why is the second amendment in there defense
well that's my opinion i think it's there so that the government the government doesn't have a monopoly on force like it did in every other country
the people have the right to bear arms in our country why is that it's so that tyranny can't prevail in this country can i elaborate on that i hear that a
lot and i think we can go deeper on that tyranny doesn't need to come domestically can come from foreign adversaries right we can be conquered or we can be corrupted from within the
right of the people to bear arms means that as they that famous apocryphal saying there's a gun behind every blade of grass you ain't invading this country
at the same time tyranny from within so to end's point where do you draw the line right is it a nuclear weapon what is it well first of all let's let's acknowledge that
whatever the police have to protect you when they get there you should have until they get there okay so anything any police department owns
should be fair game it whether you know existing laws would ban it or not i don't think that one person should be able to take over a country they
shouldn't be one person shouldn't have a weapon that enables them to do that but the people need to have sufficient weapons to throw off tyranny and it can't be where like
99 percent agree that it's tyranny what about cyber weapons like the police has like hacking tools and stuff
i don't think that applies to the second amendment maybe not yet but i think that's a there's a problem there there's a problem there with the fourth amendment um are you saying that should people be
allowed to have them it's software it's math like i don't think you should ban it there's no there's no software code
we need some clarification is it illegal to possess a malware or a virus is it illegal to position us it is illegal to infect someone's
computer with a virus or malware but is it legal to simply have it because if it's not well it's legal to have guns but it's not legal just go and shoot somebody right yeah i wonder what levels
of of tech the police are using right now to spy on people i know they have things where they can like listen through walls and it doesn't matter what the technology is if they're violating the constitution
this is the thing it's timeless and so they don't have a warrant the the police should not be able to use that technology whatever it is what's that thing they got where they fly they take
planes and they have this box that just takes all cell phone data and just breaks it i forgot what it's called it's a the police have this technology so
whenever this big protest you'll see like a plane fly overhead or they set up mobile cell sites and they have a device that just takes everything all of your text messages all
of your phone calls everything they get at all they had those uh at many of the the riots uh during 2020 and i don't know if it's factual but i'd heard that
they had them on january 6th as well so probably i i wouldn't be surprised if the capital has them just placed everywhere and they're constantly spying on and
monitoring everyone's cell phone so the first party question you say the police the the local police we should be on par with the police what about the military
so let's go back to the revolutionary war because that's what was fresh in their minds right when they wrote wrote these uh articles and and then later the constitution and the bill of
rights you would need the people need to have sufficient arms that let's say if 30 to 40 percent tim
and i were talking about this before the show if 30 to 40 percent could agree that this was legitimate tyranny and it needed to be thrown off
they need to have sufficient power without asking for extra permission it should be right there and completely available to them in their living room in order to to affect the
change and you know joe biden he has that famous quote where he's like if you want to take on the government you need you know nuclear weapons which is just not true that's not true at all the
crazy thing fighter jets can't occupy street corners yeah well also how did we lose afghanistan right oh look it wasn't because they were nuclear power right
there yeah the taliban building nuclear warheads and mervs the problem would be like if one percent of the population had weapons that were so strong that they could take over well right this is
a good shot 20 percent like i believe i believe the second amendment protects your right to own nuclear weapons i believe an individual citizen
in this country has a right to own a nuclear warhead but not a delivery device oh all of it all of it i think what about biological weapons absolutely all of it
all of it the con the second amendment does not say the right to keep and bear arms will not be infringed unless it can kill a certain amount of people unless
it is a nuclear weapon unless it's a biological weapon no no it says arms arms arms arms nuclear arms biological arms it says arms you got an issue with that i can certainly understand why you
have to amend the constitution you cannot just decide well we as a culture hereby agree nuclear weapons are bad so constitution doesn't matter anymore no then you get together you have a
convention of states and you say we all kind of agree it's not that you want nuclear weapons to be legalized but principally you think they should be until we amend the constitution it should not be hard to
amend that or do you principally think we should do you principally think we should have well hold on there a minute um not necessarily but i do think it's an interesting point you made thomas
that you know individuals should have the ability to be at least on par with the police i mean the police have a ton of technology and weapons like lrads acoustic weapons they have they've
experimented with light weapons and other things that we don't have access to they also have i'm pretty sure police have select fire rifles which are regulated under the nfa which we which we have very difficult time getting but
if you if we're talking about let's let's say we're gonna look at the purpose of the second amendment and that's why i wanted to add that portion where it's not just about domestic threats the idea that you have armed
militia ready and waiting means that if a foreign adversary comes in the local farmer is able to come out and fight instead of being disarmed well that really what's happening though just in
the event that china lands u-boats on the shores of california and they've got high-grade military tech directed energy weapons scud missiles whatever well not
skirt missiles but cruise missiles what do the american people have to resist that as they invade if they invade and it could happen here can i give you a case that's not that abstract yeah and
may certainly be in play i think putin's calculus in in ukraine is not whether it takes him four hours or four days to establish air dominance
over that country because it's certainly not more than four weeks right the question for putin is once you do that are are your soldiers willing to walk
out in the street when somebody in a jogging suit or in their pajamas some grandma in their pajamas in an apartment building in kiev
decides to blow your brains out and you're just a soldier from russia that wants to go home and be with his wife and kids exactly that that ultimately is the calculus
that putin is making it's a calculus anybody should make before you go into afghanistan or something like that do the people who
who own the stuff are they willing is a certain minority a certain group of them willing to defend it with their life if they're not
then it's not their country it won't it won't be their country for long a dictator will take over internally or externally and what weapons do they have
are they willing to die for it and what weaponry are they are they willing to use that's a fantastic allegory thank you well i think one way we can look at this i know in georgia
right now we really want constitutional carry that's something that's being pushed very hard i believe the georgia senate is about to pass it we're hoping
that the house will pass it and our governor will sign it into law but talking about people invading our country that's happening at the southern border every single day and you talk
about farmers we had a house freedom caucus we had a panel and we had border patrol agents come in and many different people and one of them was a retired
border patrol agent and he has a family farm that is right there at the border and he was telling the stories of he he hates to leave his house because he'll
be leaving his wife and young children there by themself and they constantly have illegal aliens coming right across
their yard right by the house they have them come up to the door and he feels that he has to be there all of the time to defend his wife and children because
he has guns and so when you talk about a country being invaded we are a country being invaded we're being invaded non-stop every single day at the
southern border because the current administration refuses to secure our border and so it's it is a serious issue the second amendment is so
important and and yeah i believe we have to be able to have our i think uh uh that was an understatement not that they're refusing to cure our borders but they're aiding and abetting people who
are entering illegally yes the bite administration has been taking these people and putting them on planes and flying them to other states when the biggest stories the biggest scandals was
and republicans in tennessee got wind that in the dead of night they were bringing underage undocumented children via military plane into their state
without telling them and then just releasing them into communities i mean look that that is beyond just having a weak border that is hey let's taxi you to
wherever you need to go and we'll help you get there i mean that's that's insane to me and it's worse than that look at what we do with foreign aid every year we send just millions and
billions of dollars in foreign aid to these countries guatemala central america mexico all of these countries we send this money to these basically these
governments that aren't taking care of their people and we don't even know what they're doing with that money we don't even demand an account i would like to see an account of what are you doing
with this money personally i'd like to cut it all off and keep all that money back here at home but then these countries these leaders these governments who we're
paying send their people they just let them go and send them up here to invade our country i mean this is insanity and it
should just never be happening rather than us giving foreign aid to other countries why doesn't the federal reserve just print the money for them and leave us out of it well what's the what's the difference
yeah why do we have to pass it through our government just to make us feel good about it it's still flooding uh the the saturating by the way we'll document it and cut out the middlemen by the way a
lot of those 1200 dollar checks went to people overseas who were not americans they didn't have a green card oh i see because then there's little to no oversight because we have yet to audit
the federal reserve we haven't done that yeah we do we should totally audit the thing uh so so let me ask you some questions you're stripped
of your committees are you able to write up bills and stuff what is that what does that mean for you know oh yeah i can i can write bills submit bills um
i've co-sponsored some of thomas massey's bills he's co-sponsored some of mine fire fouchy we are totally all about getting rid of anthony fauci um no
i operate completely as all the other members of congress i just don't have have to be a republican that sits on a useless committee because democrats are
fully in charge right now that's actually it's been a great thing i think i've had the advantage of learning more and working harder on the outside being without committees
in this congress especially when republicans are in the minority but the good news is i get committees back the next time okay have you have either of
you drafted legislation to either repeal the nfa abolish the atf or audit the fed abolish the atf you you did that one yes
yes beautiful yes very good i've introduced audit the fed every year that oh every year so yeah i should have known sponsored it i'm got to make sure i'm a co-sponsor and uh uh does does rand paul
do that in the senate i believe he's big on that isn't he oh yeah yeah oh i'm on it him and bernie were working on that weren't they interestingly enough oh
bernie's had a change of heart bernie was all for it when he was in the house and a lot of these senators were for it when they were in the house we've passed it through the house and then it goes to
the senate and then people that magically had this epiphany when they got to the senate that we shouldn't audit the fed yeah it's kind of like how he had that magic epiphany that
millionaires weren't bad anymore once he became one now it's just billionaires right if you want to have a house you can write a book a good book it's true you can do it
by the way i got i was getting when trump was was gonna name uh betsy devos to be the secretary of education i got swamped with phone calls people were
telling me not to vote for and we had to explain i'm in the house i'm not in the senate so that clearly you know the education system has failed you on this point but
what she knows about crt you know what they said they the people said that that's just an excuse we know you can do something so i did i wrote a bill a one
sentence bill because my colleagues a lot of them don't have a long attention span it says that and i've reintroduced it it says the department of education shall terminate
on december 31st 20 22. and that's the entire bill so now when they call up and they're mad or when they were calling up and they were
mad i said well you know i've introduced a bill to eliminate her job so you don't have to worry about it because i don't think that the president or his appointees
should decide how or what your children learn amen yeah amen it's funny how when it's you know donald trump they agree with you but then as soon as you get a bite and they're like well hold on there
a minute i'm kind of okay with it now my problem with repeat with um ending the education department is that it ends a lot of people's livelihoods so a lot of people behind the scenes are like oh f
that we're gonna we're gonna stop him but if you can transmute the department into some other useful tool or function okay same with the federal reserve i don't know i just want to cancel it i
want to create a new economic structure and then you know port over but ian the other day you were sort of making a point about automation and how it's inevitable and we don't want people to
do jobs that aren't useful and if the department of education is unnecessary those people should just be occupied is it unnecessary i've got those numbers there are 4 000 people at the department of education
none of them have written a book or teach taught a class they make an average of a hundred thousand dollars wow we could take that money which and and send it to the states
where the states could collect it and it doesn't have to go through federal hands and they could hire more teachers for taxpayers imagine doing an actual
job yeah like a trade a real job building houses and cleaning sewers and then it's trying to be in a truck driver a truck driver i think truck drivers do
pretty podcasters but but imagine that making cartoons you're working hard you're driving your truck long haul long nights cross country away
from your family and then some bureaucrat in the department of education is getting six figures to do what and your taxes are paying for them
it's your choices and it's the party of empathy and compassion who cares about the working class that is ensuring that this will always be the state of affairs they're for the worker i think or the
workers for example that we'd have it'd free up 400 million which would translate to i think 8 million per state is that what that comes out to for teachers to hire teachers that could be a mass movement well well it should be a
mass movement yes yes but but is it also possible that um you both could just introduce more legislation to uh terminate more departments within the government i personally think we
shouldn't pass bills and create more departments we need to get rid of departments we need to reduce the size of the federal government so that is the biggest problem it's out of control so i
like where you're going with this you know it's one sentence the department education will terminate have you considered that for any other department cdc would be at the top of my list oh yeah why is that
because they're counter to health policies exactly like they have been they've not just been a benign waste of money they have been hurtful to health
it's not it's not economy versus health by solely focusing on on the virus they have neglected suicide diabetes uh
you know heart disease that was something that also said but but is this an issue we've been neglecting it's an issue of government failure right is there is there a private response that would have been better i think the
department of justice is one we should seriously look at they have weaponized and gone after parents that are going to school boards demanding uh about how
their children are being educated how their children are being treated at school the the department of justice has completely gone way past their bounds
you guys ever see that movie with robin williams what was it called he's the comedian who becomes president by accident or he went he runs for office yeah what was that what was that called we watched it and
it was it's kind of a weird movie because it really feels like it feels like propaganda almost it's you know we had this period of the year 2006
where you know jon stewart was very popular and people were like john stewart should run for office with stephen colbert or whatever and this movie comes out where it turns out the comedian realizes he shouldn't be
president and the people don't want a populist leader they want experts who know what to do and i watch that movie i'm just i just find it so strange but but anyway if you're looking for an
analog to what's really going on watch idiocracy yeah shortly but dietary here's my point electrolytes we have plants crave we
have these tropes that the people want a down-to-earth funny guy to be you know the the the president or the leader and you end up with the trump and i'm like
i'm wondering if the people would just accept politicians who are like once i get in i'm gonna vote to shut it all down that's all i'll do uh you get your money back you figure out what you want
to do with it and then we're gonna shut down all these departments across the board they want a plan they want to they want to dream they want to to just close their eyes and see the world that you're envisioning i think
some people do some people do want that yeah i mean i think to be honest that's someone i would vote for now maybe i'm a niche voter here but one thing i really appreciate about both
of you is that you're actually talking about reducing the size and scope of government and terminating some of these agencies and interestingly enough whenever someone who's conservative
tries to do that and tries to go back to the way things were as a conservative is supposed to they're called an extremist all the establishment conservative is supposed to do is either a try to
maintain the size of the government and maintain the institutions which were all set up by big government leftists in years prior and the moment anyone tries to do
more than that and reduce the size and scope of government they're an extremist can i explain the feedback mechanism that causes that to happen in congress please do so you get selected for
committees based on it's almost like a beauty pageant and the the lobbyists are the judges and the lobbyists who have their
interests in front of those committees and so you have to get cheerleaders on k street who want you to be on that committee and oversee their stuff so
you're already self-selected for perpetuating their things so that's why on the armed services committee there even when republicans get in charge
they're not likely to repeal the vaccine mandate because they are doing in large part what the generals do when i was on the science committee
nasa the people at nasa write those bills and and send them over and say this is what we want and the congressmen are so busy and can't understand most of
it they rub or stamp it and it rolls through and maybe some of it goes to their district because they were chosen to be on that committee because they have something in their district that
that committee funds and it's important to their constituents so that once they get on they want to keep funding how do we solve this national divorce
yeah but that always will result in a civil war it shouldn't it doesn't have to so just like a married couple that decides that you know we can no longer
be married this is not working they resolve the situation in a court right they don't they don't actually go to war and or they shouldn't try to kill each
other maybe some of them do i don't know but they dissolve it they dissolve their marriage in a court and so essentially really what national divorce should look
like is it should go back to how our nation is founded where state rights were far more important than the federal government and the federal government's
role should be reduced down to a very small role and state rights should be so strong and so that you know if you want to live in a state where everyone has to
be vaccinated everyone has to wear three masks at least three maybe four and then you want to have a more communist style state government government and crts
taught in the school crt absolutely and and all of these radical things are what we call radical but they may love it sounds like massachusetts or california
but they should be able to have that and then if you're like like kentucky or or georgia even or florida you want to have a more conservative uh pro-traditional
family values let's say that you want to say no you can choose to be vaccinated or you can choose to wear a mask and you want to have a more free government you
should be able to have it and then there's no interference the federal government's not going to shrink itself so so here's the issue though because you know we had ron perlman he's the celebrity played hellboy come out
recently and say republican states should leave and we should leave and this discussion about national divorce has been around for a long time but what people don't understand is that's exactly what happened in the first civil war it wasn't like you had all of the
states fighting in congress and then also started shooting each other in fact what actually happened first was several states said we out and they went okay bye and then i actually pulled up from
the library of congress in january of 1861 you had 11 states seceding to form the confederacy and lincoln hadn't even been inaugurated until march yeah it
wasn't until the south started seizing forts that the north said hey you can't do this so what would happen in the event of a national divorce sure you know
california illinois new york might be like we're going to canada or something but then all of a sudden you're going to have one state's got a nuclear arsenal and
they're going to say we're the true government of the united states of america and those nukes belong to us and then one of these states is whichever faction
is in control of dc or whatever they're going to say no it's ours you can't take it and we're going to then you know relocate these weapons and that's that's basically what happened with fort sumter
let me give two examples of of successful secession in history that everybody knows about and everybody forgets about and once very specific to
your case uh ukraine used to be part of the soviet union and they left there was there were a lot of uh
of those well i mean the soviet union collapsed so did it i mean wouldn't you wouldn't the soviet union call it a collapse if america was sort of fragmented they
would look at us and say oh your federal government got so unwieldy that's true and you overextended your federal reserve and your army and you collapsed under your own weight and now you're
separate states that's true okay so it's been done there but it's also been done in the united states there's one example and i was born in the state that seceded that nobody talks about and it's
successfully seceded west virginia excuse me june of june of 1861 residents of the western counties of virginia did not wish to secede along with the rest
of the state this section of virginia was admitted into the union as a state of west virginia on june 20th 1863. so they separate they seceded from the
confederacy and but to do so they had to split a state in half and it's been totally accepted we go on
with life as if it's normal that a state just said you know we're going to separate they didn't go back together when when virginia came back into the
union so a state has separate a state has seceded from a state it's happened what about north and south carolina north and south dakota were they once
dakota and carolina no yeah i think they were always maybe territories for a brief moment gotcha but i don't i don't think i think it's naive to believe that the united states
is always going to exist in these perfect 50 states under this you know under the federal government that keeps expanding and expanding and expanding and i think it's
irrational for people to think that americans are just going to sit idly by while our federal government completely becomes tyrannical and out of control
like we've watched it do over the past year and um no one wants violence and i'll say again i'm completely against the civil war even though the media tries to say i say things like that i
never do but i do truly believe that if this becomes such a broken nation and we have one party that is trying to rule over like the democrats are trying
to rule over republicans to the point where they are deciding what opinion we're allowed to say whether we can get whether we can stay on social media or we have to leave
because we're spreading what they claim is misinformation if they get to a point where they're saying we're going to control your um what you're allowed to
do with your body and and what you have to have injected into your body and you have no no choice or say they're coming to the point where they're saying this
is what your children have to be taught and parents you have no input or say and your and your children essentially belong to the state like some people are
actually saying out loud and that's happening in the state of california and elsewhere when it gets to that point it you can't you can't just accept or
think that americans are going to accept it that is when it's okay to start saying you know what just like in a marriage i don't like the way you're treating me you you either have to
change i'm asking you to change which is what republicans should be saying to democrats right now stop this behavior you have to change we all have to live here together we should care about our
country together and if you're not then we need to consider maybe we need to separate and what does that look like but if there's one thing i think we've learned it's that the left
absolutely believes it should rule over the right exactly and that's just authoritarianism in general this idea of a leftist this weird authoritarian bent whatever the libertarian side of things
are the freedom which includes a large faction of people they're basically saying leave me alone although else yeah that doesn't sound like you can have a peaceful divorce i mean you've got a
husband and a wife and the wife's saying i want to leave and the husband's like don't you dare or else i mean you need more than just a court order you're going to need police intervention and
protections so maybe you know when you see people like ron perlman when you see like john podesta and donna brazile in that 2020
scenario they did with the boston globe reported on where they advocated western state secede from the union if donald trump wins the election again maybe they will be willing to say fine
we're out right i will i will tell you what i love the most about this trope is the the the urban the city urban liberal types are convinced that they will
flourish and the red states and republicans will suffer and i'm like do you know how to uh take care of chickens for instance where do you get
your food from oh your avocados from mexico were shipped in to your win in the middle of winter and you're having strawberries and avocado your strawberry yogurt with your avocados yeah okay if
you don't know how to grow your own food if you don't know how to and it's not even about growing your own food we learned this lesson we planted you probably understand this we planted all the tomatoes at once and that's a big
mistake you plant them one week at a time so that they the tomatoes ripen not all at once otherwise you're eating 50 tomatoes all at once we didn't know that because
we're a bunch of city folks who moved out to the middle of nowhere but the people who live in these cities they get their food shipped in they do jobs like writing at buzzfeed or working
for you know bureaucratic firms or administrative firms or managerial firms they're not the ones that for the most part are making the machine churn so in the event there was a major
divorce i don't think city i think cities are gonna just implode they're gonna go nuts yeah well tim what you're not factoring in is that all of those blue states have the reddit moderators
who walk dogs for 25 hours a week and i don't know that we could stand to lose them in all seriousness in all seriousness one of the the issues
in this isn't just a problem with national divorce or the the union remaining together or whatever the alternative is here it's just an issue of the full like the
philosophical differences between left and right here at least as they exist today it's not so much that right leaning people are all saying i want to mind my own business i want
you to mind your own business there's certainly that faction on the right but even the right leaning people who would like to see stronger government action tend to be much more in favor of local
solutions whereas with left-wing people they feel this unquenchable desire to change things unbelievably far away from
them that they have no business meddling in while problems fester all over their own community and part of it is because i believe that those external problems
are much more abstract and these are people who aren't really interested in engaging with reality and it feels really good to say i'm going to effect change and make the world better without
actually doing anything in your own local community and so they end up voting for policies that will affect the way other people live their lives without making any personal sacrifices
of their own and so whether we have a national divorce whether the country stays together that tendency is not going to change with those people i've got
another potential solution the national divorce as a solution to like the corruption the revolving door of people coming out people getting bribed maybe we can set up a direct republic right
now i've for a long time i've been thinking i thought i don't think we need the house of representatives you talked to mike revell and he wanted to set up what's called the national initiative the idea that every american citizen has
the right to write laws and pass it into the senate and we would all create our own representative from our state so we have 50 representatives of the national initiative we in his world we still have
the house of representatives but i see them getting bribed and they're it's a vulnerability in the system what if it was a smart contract and all of the representatives these eight hundred
thousand people vote for the way they want their contract to act while it's in service and as long as it's there it's just voting yay or nay as the populist directs it i find the notion of going to
more of i know you call it a republic but more of a democratic type solution terrifying well i would call it a direct republic it's actually less of a democratic solution or it's equally
democratic let me let me uh be fair and condemn my uh colleagues at the same time you know i don't blame aoc for what she
does i don't 95 of my colleagues i don't question their motives or blame them for their behavior even though it's wrong most of the time i blame the people that voted
for them they're actually responding to the people that elected them that's that's even as you can say all you want about the lobbyists and the
money and i have talked about how the committees are messed up that way but the individuals who get elected are are fairly reflective what bothers me is when they
say when you vote for me i'm going to say yes to dog walkers and then they get in they're like i'm going to vote no on that and what recourse do i have now is a voter i already this is what i chose
yeah well i think everything in the house every two years you could throw them out that is true we have to get elected every two years today's age two years is forever it's so
long but hold on hold on so so much when you get now when you get a ron paul i mean how many terms did he serve he served a lot well if he was there for a
long time he served for a while and then he came back in like 96 because he he he got dis and he you know disillusioned didn't
think it was fixable but my understanding is came back after he ran for president my understanding is the reason he won is because people really like him right is that is that true i don't live
in his district so was it that people just vote republican it didn't matter it was ron paul the the reason most people win is people like them
you nancy pelosi they like her oh they love her san francisco they love her in san francisco you know i'd like to think that people elect an
ideology or or but in reality they look for people they like they do you it's there's something to like about you know i i i
marjorie i think you're correct we just can't live with these people anymore if they like nancy pelosi and find something good in her i'm just lost i don't i don't know i'm joining my maybe you must find the love for all humans i
have a second thing can i i can't understand that world if i just can't i just want to throw one more thing in here about national divorce i sort of mentioned that even if we break up the the federal government even if
all the states go their separate way one group is still going to have a desire to control and obviously they couldn't do that the federal government at that point but when you look at so much of the actual censorship that the american
people are facing it's coming from large corporations and that kind of thing is always going to be weaponized i mean national divorce or not it would depend on your states and how they're set up
but here's something here's a second thing that i think everyone should think about while we're fighting out our differences here in the united states and among one another as americans the
biggest thing that upsets me is as americans we aren't coming together as a whole and saying we can put aside our petty differences in our opinions what
we should be standing together on is we should be standing against china we should be standing against globalism because if you want to talk about
authoritarianism and you want to talk about people that really want to rule over us china is a direct threat to our entire existence and let me tell you something
else china is embedded in the united states there are politicians people that thomas thomas and i work with that are
completely sold out i if you have not read peter schweitzer's book the new book that has come out i highly encourage you to read it you would be
shocked there's a there's a whole whole chapter on dianne feinstein that woman has been there probably longer than all of us have been alive they have made so much money through
corporate connections um policy deals that she was willing to make through her powerful position as a senator
with her husband stock deals money investments i mean it is it is outrageous that this actually happened but it's not just them it's happened
over and over and over again with people in power right here in our country and this is the kind of thing that i think we should come together on republicans and democrats
yes both parties both parties sold all parties there's more than two that's when people say both i think they're missing the mark because there are many many political parties we talked about this before the show you said congress
thomas you were telling me yeah it's like set up for two-party literally built with the fact that there's an aisle forces you into two halves tell me more about this you said there's coat
rooms there's a cloak room there are two cloak rooms there aren't three i've thought about this because i feel like a trans partisan someday i don't know which cloak room to go into but because
there's only two and they shoehorn you know there's probably six or seven kinds of parties that aren't named in our country right now but then you
shoehorn them into two parties every committee hearing room has two back rooms you know you hear about back room deals okay they literally call them back
rooms and there are exactly two back rooms with every committee hearing room they even have a smoking section right yes smoking section yeah
like there's a democrat smoking section or a republican smoking section in the cloak rooms there's a smoking section oh okay wow but it's built into the it's built into the architecture it would be really hard
and it's built into the rules like every committee they say well we're going to portion the committee based on the majority and minority party the fact
that there's a a majority leader and a minority leader and it should probably cap it like we're going to set like each party 10 parties and you want 20 committee members that means there can
be two from each party and then that'll incentivize people to go to other parties that don't have that many people yet so they have a better chance of getting on a committee i'm sure there's a better way to do it i am absolutely
certain well then what what can we do let me just elaborate a little bit i mean you mentioned last time you were here there's like what you say 10
democrats on one side 10 republicans and there's some random guy reading going like this bill says this democrats republicans democrats get it bang like that happens
yes oh yeah that just says every day congress is is is is is is broken it's theater theater so what do we do to fix that that
well we've asked for recorded votes all year um so for this this past year in 2021 i believe there's been over 490
bills that we've requested recorded votes that's that hasn't happened in a very long time in congress this this is amazing and this is what
inspires me uh it gives me hope going forward you're looking for some kind of hope marjorie taylor green gives me hope like on march 27 2020 i was the only
person asking for a recorded vote on the biggest spending bill in history it was verboten to do that it was not acceptable and then marjorie came and
just made it the normal course that yeah we're going to vote on everything she didn't have committee so she sat on the floor there were you know if there were going to be three people in there there
was going to be one more and it was marjorie and she just started asking for recorded votes but there are a dozen other people who will take turns watching the floor
and asking for when you went in and demanded that everybody come in and vote how long did it take between when you went in and when they all got there real real quick i i i need to you guys
this is you've set up a system now where among the real people in congress we have a schedule you make sure there's someone there to demand everything we take turns
every single week where they're in session we sign up for it and we i mean we sit on the floor sometimes we're texting each other no one's down there or i have a meeting i can't go and we
work our way around and we make sure here's what's disturbing it's amazing it is amazing and it's inspiring because it used to be me and i'm like i gotta go to the bathroom
and i'm pretty sure and then i ended up being in that position and oh it's miserable and then they vote when you walk out of the room yes oh my gosh yes they do
they literally wait for you to leave in fact that may have been why on march 27th the president called me while the to get you out of the room
yeah to get me out of the room i'm not sure if they had timed it that well but i i stayed and let me calls go to voicemail let me just but but let me just say so that's
inspiring what that we've got shifts and stuff but that's what your party leadership's supposed to do the the minority leader and the minority
whip they've got a dozen staff members on the floor that know exactly what's going to happen next they're working on the script with nancy pelosi they know
which bills are coming and they should be asking for the votes so let me tell you funny story um motion to adjourn you know i love motion to adjourn motion to
adjourn is something any member of congress can step up and make a motion to adjourn that that it calls for everyone to have to vote to end congress
for the day and i believe often times congress is so out of control i love to make a motion to adjourn well recently i came down to the house floor and i was
going to make a motion to adjourn and um nancy pelosi found out because i told one of the one of the floor staffers that i was going to do it
so she came out and she opened the day you know she started the whole day and is and she looked at me directly and she was talking faster than normal you tell
she was irritated and then you know what she did she said the house will be in recess and she didn't let anyone do their one-minute speeches and there were
several members that were really mad at me because they didn't get to do their one minute speeches because they knew it was because i was going to do a motion to adjourn wow but they do they they talk
i want to let you know that after the first time you came on i had people messaging me friends and family saying when i heard that congress doesn't actually go and
vote and marjorie said she started demanding it and forcing them to do their jobs people were like that was the moment i realized she was great and she was amazing and i loved her
i didn't i didn't know i mean you come here and tell me that uh this stuff about how they they're basically just not doing their jobs you tell us this stuff you talk
about how they'll wait for you to leave the room before voting i don't think regular people realize how broken the whole system really is or or
more specifically you say they don't enforce the masking until in areas where there's no cameras it's all for show i think when you tell people that congress's approval rating is so far in
the gutter that they're willing to believe it and then when you mention oh yeah and we're rotating shifts to make sure they all have to do their jobs i'm sure people started laughing their asses off when they heard that well it let's not say
who the member is can we agree if i tell the story yes okay so marjorie had asked for a recorded vote and and people were going to miss some fundraisers and they were
really mad and this was a and i saw people one at a time coming up to marjory and just saying stuff to her and so i'm things so i went and sat next to her and
and one of our colleagues sat next to her as well scott perry great guy great guy thinking that they wouldn't have the audacity to come up and and yell at a
woman for actually just doing her job well an individual did and i'm not going to name him and and he started mansplaining to marjorie
he literally standing over me he said i know you're trying really hard to do this job and i know you care a lot but you need
to be thoughtful about this and after about uh 60 seconds that i couldn't take it anymore and i said you
know what if your constituents could see you if they could hear you right now they would be so upset with you you gotta say who it is no no no and
then he turned because we gotta be friends so he turned his ire to me and said you you worry about your own district i know what my constituents
want and i'll take care of my votes and you take care of yours and you mind your own business and i said you know what if you if you're that certain that your constituents are happy with what you're
saying go down to the microphone say it in front of the camera let them hear it i'm still shocked that it's not live streamed all that action with little mic
lapels so that we can just watch you guys actually it's not like you're puppets but i mean we literally what a reality oh i'd give anything for a reality show
but i want to tell you something thomas massey was the first person to stand up for me and that was the first time it happened the rest of the time i had been berated and taking so much
anger and horrible things from other republicans that were mad at me for for asking for recorded votes because they were going to be on record they're cowards but
thomas massey stood up for and you want to know why he talked he's talked about he he went and was forcing everyone to come back to washington when on the biggest spending
but been the biggest spending bill in this pandemic that in our nation's history and he was saying our constitution is still intact this is so
important we have to vote on this and you wouldn't have believed what he had to go through i mean i love president trump but he he had to deal with the phone calls and the tweets
and everyone mad and angry at him and then he had his colleagues mad and angry at him and everyone called him non-stop trying to talk him out of it and he
still stood firm and he stood firm and he made sure our constitution stayed intact and this is such an incredible story i truly think it's an important
part of our history that thomas massey did that during this uh coveted 19 bio weapon i'll say that i think it's that and we have to prove it but but during
this what was happening to our country we had one member of congress willing to make sure that our constitution stood in this in this historic time i'll be
honest i think i i was even critical i think at the time my reaction was like now is not the time for grandstanding when we're being shut down and we're in desperate need of aid and relief
and we all make mistakes i think you know now i look back at the mass spending and the disaster that it's been by the way there's they roll out contingency government plans when things stop
working when the three branches quit functioning they've got a contingency plan and it is not pretty direct to 51 right no no no
not area 50 no no no no no presidential directive 51. not familiar with that but that was uh it's been updated but george w bush signed into uh an executive order
called national security presidential directive 51 which unilaterally grants the executive branch the right in any disaster to reform the government
under one branch under the executive branch where they would have a national continuity coordinator who would control the other branches effectively and their justification is a mass casualty event
anywhere in the world a financial disaster anywhere in the world it's been updated since then and expanded but it's never been tested because it's an executive decree so
we'd see we'll see how that could ever play out if it could i want to mention something you just uh said that you believe that covet is a bio up and it's interesting because according to dr
francis boyle who drafted the american implementation of the national or i'm sorry of the international bioweapons convention any disease or virus created through
gain of function research is a de facto bioweapon it doesn't have to have been made with the intent necessarily being a bio weapon the reason this is
so easy to get fuzzy on and why they can deny that it is one is because they can argue well yes we used gain of function research
to create this virus but we were only making it because if someone else made the same virus we would want to have it first so we could know how to cure it but that's like saying well my gun isn't
a weapon because the reason i have it is just to study it take it apart clean it i don't plan on using it well whether you plan on using it or not it is still
a weapon and if these were if this was created through gain of function research it's a biological weapon whether they claim that was the purpose or not and that is again according to the man who literally authored the
legislation on what a biological weapon is i agree my analogy extending on that is they were playing with matches and the house caught on fire yes and they said
well we were playing with matches so we would know how to put a house exactly they weren't matches but guess what they ran they didn't they did not try to put
the house out they ran away and denied they were playing with matches yeah yeah exactly well and then denied that they were matches in the first place this wasn't a bat came in and lit this place
on fire well look look when you when you get jon stewart coming out and making those accusations on stephen colbert's show this is not a fringe idea this is
something the american people believe but let's go to super chats for those that haven't smash the like button subscribe to the channel share the show with your friends and make sure you go to timcast.com become a member we're
gonna have a members only segment coming up at about 11 p.m over at timcast.com you're not going to want to miss that but let's read some super chats we'll start with this one i'm going to try and
find i'm going to try and keep it to questions for um thomas and marjorie we have this one from random eskimo he says please ask marjorie taylor green what she thinks
about stacey abrams saying people complained about her because it was black history month i've seen racism in my life but whining is not a solution
crack pipes matter all right then but not on the taxpayer's dime no what i have to say to stacey abrams is hiding behind black history reading
month is racist i think that's a racist claim no what she had to do what she was doing sitting on the floor um sitting there as a high risk person uh with covid19
and heard obesity unmasked while children are being forced to wear masks and they are not at high risk that has nothing to do with black history month that has everything to do
with being an authoritarian elite candidate for governor that i hope to god we defeat and never allow to become and become our
governor who's running against beautifully said who's you know who's running against her well we're we're having the primaries right now she has no one being chat no one's challenging
her but we have governor uh brian kemp is a republican in the primary david perdue is a republican in the primary vernon jones just dropped out and moved
to uh the 10th congressional district in georgia and then there's one uh remaining candidate candace taylor is is also in the republican primary all right
we have this from matthew hammond he says could we end baseline budgeting if republicans retake the house what what is baseline budgeting it's it's saying that we're
we're only we're going to start with the budget we had last year and we're only going to add to it um what we need to end here's the biggest
change we could do quit passing omnibus bills where when we make all of the spun spending in one bill
for instance here's what they do the pay raise for the soldier is always in the omnibus bill so they threaten you especially if you're in a republican primary you go
back home and you explain why you didn't vote for this pay raise for these soldiers well guess what else was in there everything gain of function funding is in there
well well well how do how do i i saw that i saw that video of like the they're they're carding in the 5 000 pages of the omnibus bill
who gets to add stuff to it how does how does how does stuff get in there can you guys add stuff it's already written you know if we tried to change one penny let's
say the total of it was a certain number it's impossible to change a penny because the agreement has already been made between parties that aren't voting on it and if we were to actually change
it they'd have to go back in that room with the secret folks and well our leadership doesn't want it to change they want thing they don't want
the government to shut down they want don't want to get blamed for that here's what's going to happen next congress when we take the majority it's going to be our omnibus bill now
and i would like to explain why it shouldn't be an omnibus bill but it's going to be our omnibus bill and they're going to go to all the freshmen who've never been in the majority i hope they're listening to your podcast
and they're going to say look this is bigger than you this is bigger than us we we need to get a president who can sign our bills so we don't need
any drama don't try to defund anything in this let's get to 2024. let's use what we got in 2022 to get to 2024. let's have hearings that make
biden look bad so that we can get our president elected and you just vote for the omnibus no drama there and and it will be our whip team who is whipping
republican members to vote for an omnibus what we should do instead we should vote on the 12 separate bills the the bill that funds the military
should be voted on separately from the bill that funds the department of justice through appropriations through 12 separate appropriations bills in fact i would vote on 400 different bills
frankly i would totally agree and i'll roll call every single one of them and that way if you leave if one of them would have had gain of function in it and you left it out yeah and then you
don't get into this grudge match with the president where the government shuts down the president doesn't have anything to sign that has it in there you don't even give
him that option to fund those things you don't want you give him separate bills it's like the reverse of a line-item veto who's making so much sense who's
going to be the speaker of the house when republicans take the majority well we only have one person running or that we know is running which is kevin mccarthy
so there's but there's no one else running so we'd you know can i tell you i was i was a i i was a part of three coups
against john boehner architected the second two coups one with jim breinstein and one with mark meadows the third one worked our third coup against boehner
the saddest day ever of my life in congress is when the freedom caucus agreed to vote for paul ryan i was uh the second time paul ryan was
elected i was the only republican who would not vote for him what would happen if the only republican every single republican marjorie that you serve with
voted for paul ryan if they were there when paul ryan yeah you were well so inspired when uh after i think it's january 3rd right
everybody comes in and you have the orientation so then you're going to vote on the speaker and it's going to be nancy pelosi and kevin mccarthy right well no so our body is a majority
controlled body the body of congress is so whichever party is the majority control that that's the party that will be choosing the speaker well no no no no
no unless they defect it but i mean supposedly we'll be running you can you can introduce other candidates right there live time on the floor to the clerk before there's a speaker in fact
we were the first people to do it uh in the second coup against boehner we introduced three alternate candidates after both parties introduced theirs but
we think it may have been the first time since the country was was founded that that actually happened i'm just i'm wondering uh so you're in the majority you're going
to win but you know now nancy well let's say the republicans win the majority kevin mccarthy there will be a vote people will be voting for nancy pelosi
she's just going to leave oh yeah right right so but what would happen if you guys told the republican establishment if you if you choose kevin mccarthy we will not vote in favor of them
hands down no negotiating done what would happen if you didn't vote for him oh speaker no no she would not so you have to get a majority of those present and
voting so let's say the freedom caucus peeled off let's say we had a majority of 15 15 more republicans and democrats and 20 republicans refused to vote for
the conference selection of that the gop had selected let's say it was kevin there would be there would have to be another vote there would be a second vote and then if those 20 again
disagreed to do it the probably the republicans would go back into behind closed doors the conference and and pick somebody that could get a majority on
the floor that sounds like a great by the way i'm explaining this i'm not advocating for it i'm telling you i've i led three or lead two coups against boehner co-led
was a was a willing but stupid participant in the first coup never voted for paul ryan but here's what i think the problem is we were that was too simple of a solution the
definition the job definition of speaker needs to change it's not about who you choose a speaker and a hundred years ago they changed they were successful in
devolving power from the speaker this is what needs to happen the speaker shouldn't be telling the chairman which bills to bring forward the chairman should be bringing the bills from their
committees to the speaker and say this came out of our committee the and and then that's how it should work and i think we should i think individual members of congress should be
able to bring bills to the floor and ask for a vote i don't think it should be completely controlled we certainly used to be able to do that before you got there with amendments we could on the
appropriations bill any member of congress could walk up to the floor with their amendment and get a vote on it it should be back to that it because right now we can like if i have a bill i
cannot get it to the floor for a vote unless i have 218 members of congress sign to for for it to be voted on in person or you know you know i'll in person i
just want we got to read more but i do want to add i hope that uh when it comes to the omnibus bill y'all just slip in abolishing the nfa and the atf and it's like wow it's in there you got to do it
but let's read this we got uh sharkbite biz says marjorie why don't you sue big tech for their bands as illegal undisclosed election donations they are
it promotes and gives free publicity marketing reach to your competition during an election this is a clear campaign donation also check out our show sharkbite biz on
youtube oh sharkbite biz you're very smart well i haven't said that i'm not going to sue them so thank you for bringing that up so yeah twitter twitter is not out of
the woods all right okay let's see josh says have either of you heard about
madison cawthorne's new term limits bill thoughts on it thanks for all both of you do for our nation i i know about it i just learned about it this week i don't know the details on
it um i've already signed the term limits pledge but i'm not going to term limit myself unless there was an actual law passed i
don't want to see what i consider to be the good guys leave on their own when the bad guys are definitely not going to leave and have no intention to do so
right that's that's always the big issue because whenever i talk about term limits i'm like didn't we all like ron paul being in for as long as he was in um you know exactly so
i mean i i don't know his particular bill i've taken the pledge i sponsored the term limit bills i'd vote for them um if we could get them to the floor
but i think it's like a it's like a cotton candy solution i call them it tastes good but there's nothing of that's going to stay with you
it might give you a sugar high people they raise a lot of money they push this issue they be a lot better off spending their time trying to fix the broken
process in congress because even and here's a question i ask um okay who voted for us bozos okay somebody voted for us and we're there so replace all of
us bozos who gets to pick the next set of bozos the same set that picked these bozos well there you go all right
mohave says yesterday tim poole claimed that generation x is politically weak some of my fellow gen xers include marjorie taylor green alex jones joe
rogan tucker carlson and ron desantis when i said that i don't mean that every single gen xer is incapable of doing politics i said that when like by
politically weak you look at millennials they won't shut up they're screaming at the top of their lungs banging on the walls making demands and they're getting a lot of it gen xers are like most of
them removed and chilling and not really involved well we were left at home a lot as kids i think it was a latch launch because we didn't have the internet when
we were growing up so like a lot of gen xers don't really understand it like alex or cortez she's like dude does twitter and gets like 30 million whatever because she's like young
millennial knows the internet so well and knows how to work the algorithm and so it looks like people that aren't twitter probably boost her whereas somebody like me twitter's like
yeah i also think it's sort of a truism that the the rebels are always on the college campuses the the revolutionaries and um the old people vote
and maybe gen xers maybe we're just between the college revolutionaries and the old people who vote and maybe it's just our phase of life i hope a lot of
those truckers are gen xers i i gosh i love truckers right now all right here's a here's one from gabe he says who can small businesses go to about
demanding that esg scores not become a norm if this is not possible how can we make sure the esg rating agencies give a fair score are y'all familiar with the esgs what is
it environmental social good social uh environmental social governance governance thank you i don't think we should have any of those i'm
not a climate change person it's even worse than that yes i don't think yes at crt so i don't think there should be a scoring system uh and everything's set up to hurt small
businesses right if you're a big corporation it is oh gosh everything goes your way but if you're a small business if you're the little guy you're fighting so many things and so many
regulations and so many different taxes and you're a small shop you're a small operation you might be a mom and pop store or a single mom just trying to run your little business and you don't have
the big accounting department you don't have the attorneys over here to help you with all these issues and then when you come to an esg issue it's just completely it's
it's another whole level that makes it impossible to compete and these are the type of regulations and ridiculous things we have to stop and repeal
and and make sure that we allow small businesses to be able to compete fairly with the larger corporations this shouldn't exist for a big company or a small company but right almost all
regulations are scale prejudicial they are harder for the small guys to comply with whether it's food regulations or or esg regulations
financials you said almost what are some that aren't right off the top of your head you have it i can't i don't have any stuff in my hands you can build like logarithmic i'm just protecting myself against the fact checkers all right let
me here's
vote yes on the trump impeachment twice and if so why no i did i did not vote on trump impeachment you didn't vote or you voted no i voted no you voted against it
yeah yeah i i i was curious about that that question but there you go what they um what they might be recalling and i shouldn't maybe advertise my unpopular
ass votes or aspects but um i voted to certify the election oh right right right and um yeah i'm not
i'm not a proponent of the fraud theory or anything like that well and marjorie we're on different sides of this but here's my concern
you know the constitution pretty clearly says that the state legislatures decide and so i said before we got to the vote many weeks before i said if a state
legislature tells me that their authority was usurped by their governor or their secretary of state or the judiciary branch if if a
majority of either branch of their state government says that then i can't certify their electors but if they won't tell me that their authority was usurped
then maybe they wanted it to be done that way and maybe they would have voted it that way i can't read it's like this if you leave ten dollars on the table
and somebody picks it up and walks off with it and you're okay with it did they steal it this is something important people need to understand uh not to derail too much but uh just the issues
we've been having legally there are a lot of people that want us to cut cut slack on you know people who have let's just say violet or security but we we literally can't we we you know we
spot we we had a guy who trespassed i'll just i'll just get into it with a guy who trespassed and uh we talked to the cops and the cop well he didn't trespass he it's burglary so we have no
trespassing sign the moment he crossed the sign he was officially committing a crime because there's two actually it's a big driveway it's a it's very very large like a thousand feet and then he
came up to the house and entered the building which officially becomes fourth degree burglary we we talked to the cop and the cops said if you don't enforce this you lose standing in the future to enforce
similar actions like it be it becomes a weaker position for you because they'll say you're selective geez it's like the system set up to make you become an authoritarian i think you want to run a
business no i i think it's reasonable listen if you claim that you don't allow strangers to come to your property but then some of them you do a judge is going to look at you and be like oh dude
what's the reason for your selective and i feel like people get into power and then they're like i don't want to do it but i'm going to send troops into the war like i don't want to do it but i'm going to do the violence so not to
derail but just that you know by the way the other concern while i'm talking about that is if we get in the habit of congress overriding whatever the the election system produced then
now we've nationalized elections and states like kentucky don't fare well when uh when you do things that way well i just think the the strategy needs
to be you know right now ground game for republicans i think republicans need to be resisting the voting changes i think the democrats are trying to push
push their uh voter overhaul bill and that is the electoral college act that's what well well no the the they call it the voting
rights bill manipulation that's the democrats bill yeah what republicans need to understand and i think i feel like this is lost on so many people the reason universal mail
in voting is so advantageous to democrats is because democrats live in dense urban populations where two activists can hit a thousand doors in a day whereas for republicans in more
rural areas you're driving miles from each house that's right so look a democrat activist knocks on a door hey see that thing on the ground fill it out right now just do it i'll
wait okay go to the next door do it republicans got to drive dude in the cities you can go down to the lobby and throw it in the outgoing mailbox exactly exactly it's ridiculously easy for
democrats to vote that way so i think voting should not be blindly easy and anybody who argues voting should be super easy no it shouldn't no you
shouldn't have to show an id it should be an act that you take on yourself you willingly go to cash your vote and it has you have to have proof of
identification that you're a citizen proof of your address it has to be very secure but the other thing about objecting i objected on january 6 and i would do it again and the reason why i
believe it was so important to do it is because there were thousands of people that signed their name at risk of perjuring themselves in a court of law
saying that they had witnessed voter fraud and those affidavits i i believed were very important and as a representative and elected
representative of the people in my district i felt like i needed to represent what they were saying and there at that time were not able to
prove what they were saying in court and so i did object to to key states but you know that's the great thing about like thomas and i we may not have done the
same thing on january 6 and he didn't do anything wrong and he has always supported president trump and and definitely actually probably supported trump in
many ways that people didn't support president trump i think that's one of the things that a lot of people don't understand um but as far as
objecting i just i think our election system is we it is so valuable and we have to make sure that it's always protected do you know the moment that it
was certain all 50 states would do mail-in ballots was on march 27 2020 when congress said it's too dangerous for us to show up and
vote so we're going to do all this by remote control and and republicans agreed except for me marjorie wasn't there yet and and i said
no you've got to show up and vote well you had the president and a majority of republicans in congress arguing it was too dangerous for congressmen who have
good health care and security it was too dangerous for them to actually show up and vote so then how do you then make the argument that everybody else should show up and vote it's pretty hard to get
that high ground all right let's read some more we got a couple here zimmeru says marjorie my mom thinks you're racist because you said something bad about kwanzaa i'm black and i don't
care about kwanzaa either but can you say something to convince her you aren't racist or hate black people i i don't know how you're supposed to do it i don't either it's it's definitely
that accusation is not true of me and all my friends and family that know me personally would never say that about me um just because i said that that kwanzad
i called it a fake holiday i don't think it's something that should be promoted and and you know i mean they can promote it anyone can celebrate anything that's the great freedom we have in our country
and and for people that care about it but the founder of kwanzaa is someone that actually murdered two women and this is this was a a very radical
extremist the man that founded kwanzaa um i think people should understand the person behind kwanzaa and and the person that started this movement um and it's
not at all what is talked about today in those terms so when i had talked about kwanzaa it was um you know i'm not impressed with a holiday that started by someone with
such radical beliefs uh but it has nothing to do with anyone's skin color i i don't like identity politics i don't engage in it i could care less um that's
not something that matters to me the creator was maulana karenga and i believe was created in california yes all right we got one from lance he says tim if you're okay with citizens owning
all forms of arms how do you keep people from turning the country into an actual war zone what punishments do you put in place for those who use these weapons on
each other well the same uh you know we've had a very hard time stopping american citizens from shooting each other in mass warfare no we haven't people have guns they walk
around west virginia all the time there's people who walk around with ar-15s there's people who walk around with guns on every part of their body they can carry a gun on you know the funny thing about the left's argument on
gun control i'm sorry i'm sorry i always got to correct myself the democratic establishment because leftists true leftists love guns true just not as soon as they seize power
then they want to take your guns away but for the establishment players who want to ban guns you know how do you stop people from running over running over other people why is why do
they never discuss well how would you stop someone from getting in their car and running people over it's like well sometimes it happens it's it's horrifying and that we arrested them and we put them in jail and intentionally
remember the parade everyone wants to forget about the christmas parade of course oh that's right never happened my point is heartbreaking my point is
not that cars are intentional weapons my point is that people drive around multi-ton objects all day every day and i'm not worried about them ramming into
each other and having destruction derbies and parking lots or anything like that and when you actually live in a state where everybody's armed all the time do you you you never ask yourself well
gee i was walking around in west virginia nobody was shooting anybody else why why is that it's because people don't want to so look i think you know there are
people luke luke grakowski of weir change sends me this uh gun broker ad and it's for a hand crank nine millimeter gatling gun
and he's like you gotta buy this people owned these things no one is carrying those things aren't going dude like it just doesn't happen we also have
several examples in the last several years where that's not happened every state where they have passed constitutional carry and by the way that means you can carry a firearm without
out asking the government's permission without going through training without getting a photo id paying taxes every state the prediction has been it'll be
the wild west you're trying to turn west virginia into the wild west you're trying to turn kentucky into the wild west it's never happened it doesn't go
that way people don't just start spontaneously shooting each other when you allow people to carry fire what happens to the crime rates they go down
exactly and right now we have record high crime and that's why that's why owning a gun is so important that's why constitutional carry is so important that's why georgia needs to pass it and
if we don't get it past people gun owners are going to be so angry in georgia if we don't get constitutional carry because we're at the threat of losing a republican governor and having
stacey abrams who literally in her announcement speech that's what she talked about reducing gun rights taking away guns that was in her announcement margaret i i cannot
believe you would say that about her during black history month that's so horrible oh i forgot that before we go to the member segment we
have uh beastly who says question for marjorie you say have a national divorce and we need to stand against china how is that possible with a weaker america suffering
from ccp subversion well i talked about the national divorce as one option that hopefully we don't have to do but we may end up having to be there
because democrats and their authoritarian policies and controls may force us to that point but i said we also need to
look towards each other and put aside our differences and realize that china is our real enemy what i was getting is that it was where you do you mean the ccp
ccp i think of the chinese people i feel like they're enslaved under the boot not the people the government the ccp yeah not directed at the regular zero zero zero zero one
percent of that population or something yeah a very powerful less evil organization controlling the chinese people so i would like let's
we'll talk about some here's what we're going to do we're going to go start recording our uncensored members only segment and i want to talk about the cdc and i want to
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will you could go there and donate to me i was number 438 in fundraising out of 435 congress wow
this is what i won because he doesn't call and beg for money all the time the non-voting delegates of guam and puerto rico raised more money than me
in in a six-month period oh my gosh they don't even get to vote wow and so anyways i'm not the best fundraiser i'm still upright is what i want to know i
think it's going to tip over because your member from georgia was concerned about that yeah anyways uh thank you very much
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yeah yeah exactly exactly dude you guys had so much i don't want i learned a lot tonight yeah this is really great i hope you guys come back and tell us more because i have a lot
more questions and i feel like we at least nailed like a third of like the stuff i would i would have loved to have talked about tonight oh i'll come back let's do it i'll be back and keep
pumping these websites uh rand paul next time yes yeah it's great and dan crenshaw i'd love to have a debate i think it'd be wrong i would enjoy a debate yeah yeah dan's
see i'm one of those i believe in the the civil war and the gop i think we need to work it out iron sharpens iron and we need to work to be the republican party that supports our base and
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